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Old 09-05-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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The implication that 40 year old men from the 30's were somehow sympathetic to any of these behaviors is the height of ignorance.
You didn't see any of them murdering people who stole things or murdering people just for being different. They wouldn't kill gays, they'd lock them in an asylum. (Which isn't as brutal as murdering them because they valued human life) They were didn't respect women sure, but they believed in Chivalry and treating them nicely and like gentleman. Seeing them abused like that would outrage the man from the 1930s who was raised with a sense of respect for others even if he doesn't always treat them equally.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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It's probably a lot easier to talk about from here in the states than to actually do it in Northern Iraq or Syria. From what little I know, were I over there, I'd be leaving if I could, or laying mighty low. Standing up to ISIL or whatever you want to call it is likely a losing proposition in many ways.
I actually meant the rest of the Muslim World. But I'd love to see one of those ISIS goons come to me unarmed. I don't fear them.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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You didn't see any of them murdering people who stole things or murdering people just for being different. They wouldn't kill gays, they'd lock them in an asylum. (Which isn't as brutal as murdering them because they valued human life) They were didn't respect women sure, but they believed in Chivalry and treating them nicely and like gentleman. Seeing them abused like that would outrage the man from the 1930s who was raised with a sense of respect for others even if he doesn't always treat them equally.
I'm sure I could find some certain folks around in the 1930s who weren't that nice... Let me think, for a second.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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I'm sure I could find some certain folks around in the 1930s who weren't that nice... Let me think, for a second.
I'm sure you could. But there's not as many as there are radical muslims. You can bet that, especially in America at the time. For every Al Capone and mobster you have 100+ radicals strapping on C4.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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You didn't see any of them murdering people who stole things or murdering people just for being different. They wouldn't kill gays, they'd lock them in an asylum. (Which isn't as brutal as murdering them because they valued human life) They were didn't respect women sure, but they believed in Chivalry and treating them nicely and like gentleman. Seeing them abused like that would outrage the man from the 1930s who was raised with a sense of respect for others even if he doesn't always treat them equally.
You seriously think no black or gay man was killed in the 30's just for being who they were? It wasn't all sunshine and lollipops back then either.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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You seriously think no black or gay man was killed in the 30's just for being who they were? It wasn't all sunshine and lollipops back then either.
Sure it's not. But they're not killing 10-100,000 people every day like the radicals. You're seriously comparing a little xenophobia with a group on par with Hitler/Stalin/Pol Pot.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:07 PM
 
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As an american I'm less concerned with radical muslims as I can radical white conservative americans.
Are you scared of Westboro Baptist Church protesting your house? They're the most radical group in the US and they're not even the remote big scary.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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You seriously think no black or gay man was killed in the 30's just for being who they were? It wasn't all sunshine and lollipops back then either.
Who said it was?
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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As an american I'm less concerned with radical muslims as I can radical white conservative americans.
Tell me, what about me concerns you?

After all, I am self professed conservative, and since skin color is actually irrelevant, you can pretend I'm white or black, if it helps you find the answer to the question above.

Tell me what threat I pose to your future. Be precise.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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Sure it's not. But they're not killing 10-100,000 people every day like the radicals. You're seriously comparing a little xenophobia with a group on par with Hitler/Stalin/Pol Pot.
You're comparing an average conservative person from 1930s(Where? In the US only or anywhere in the world?) to an extremist that's a small percentage of any population today. An average conservative Muslim of today to an average conservative man from the 1930s compared might be fairly similar in some ways, but probably weren't going to go out and kill any one though their views on something like gays or women might be more conservative than most modern liberal societies. People I know from Syria or Egypt today look at ISIS the same as most Americans do, as a bunch of bloodthirsty nutjobs...

You should just be comparing extremists to extremists then, but there's always been people butchering other people at some place in the world. There were Japanese soldiers were chopping off heads all over Asia in the 1930s, now look at Japan. Latin America was violent in the 1930s with revolutions and dictatorships and now it's violent with crime. Anti-Semitism in Europe peaked by the 1930s into the 1940s as the climax of years of anti-Jewish violence in Europe. Lynch mobs were still active around the US in the 30s, and so on.
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