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Old 09-06-2014, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Send the statists. They love the government so much. Let them die for it.
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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The Draft is how politicians look tough.
Look tough to who and look tough on who?

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Old 09-06-2014, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Grandfather was a conscientious objector in WW1, served as a stretcher bearer and was wounded and gassed on the western front. If there is a draft, true conscientious objectors can/should serve in non combat roles.
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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It was the opposition to the Draft that sparked the Viet Nam War protest. That is the way I remember it. If you want to stop playing Whack A Mole around the world bring back the Draft. When defense of the country is spread throughout the population, the population will be engage in politics, and decide what is in their best interest. Few people will protest a war fought by volunteers and government will use them like rented mules. The best way to bring back the Draft is to educate the young in your own family and communities why it is not a good idea to enlist in military service. When there is not enough volunteers or private contractors the Military Industrial Complex will force the draft on their puppets through campaign contributions. Their is no way they can resist that kind of bribe and stay in office.
This is exactly right. The year I graduated from high school, every single boy I knew, and his family had to decide what to do. Two of them were sent to Canada by their parents, with no expectation that they would be able to ever come back. If you didn't go to college, you were gonna deal with the draft - this was 2 years before the lottery - or, if you knew someone, maybe you could get into the Guard. The consequences of the war were not just images on TV or stories about other people. They were right there sitting around the family dining table.
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Old 09-06-2014, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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If you were in a war zone would really want someone like that protecting your back?
When my unit got deployed to Iraq in 2003 we had a couple of people decide to pull the conscientious objector trick... Me personally I didn't want to deploy with those types. You have to trust the person next to you...
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Old 09-06-2014, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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When the American youths were running to Canada, I had a half dozen Canadians in my unit who ran to America to fight beside us!

One of them pulled my pickle out of the jar more than once!
(Nam Vet)
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: DC
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The Draft is how politicians look tough.
Congress is not even going to consider a bill reviving the draft. Silliness.
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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When the American youths were running to Canada, I had a half dozen Canadians in my unit who ran to America to fight beside us!

One of them pulled my pickle out of the jar more than once!
(Nam Vet)
"Pulled my pickle" You really picked that saying...
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Old 09-07-2014, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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With a drawdown going on, no way we will see a draft anytime soon. With technology being what it is, the military CAN play Whack-a-Mole from afar and be pretty effective.
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Old 09-07-2014, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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"Pulled my pickle" You really picked that saying...
Coulda said D*%k in the mud.
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