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Old 09-08-2014, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I bet you used to but this 2014 now so almost nobody carries cash and nobody writes checks, besides grandmas.
I almost never have more than $5 on me or in my house . I charge everything, including a $1 ice tea at Mc Donald's.

There's a backstory when people have substantial amounts of cash on their person or in their car.
Drugs are only a part of the story. Dealing in stolen property and weapons is another. No doubt there are some legit stories, too. Claiming no knowledge there was cash in the car and signing a release of no claim only to later remember that the money was your own sounds beyond suspicious.

According to the allegations in the link, only 1/6 of people who have their cash confiscated make an effort to claim it is meaningful.

I don't buy into this storyline or the numbers.
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:49 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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... unless you can prove you got it legally.

Police confiscate millions of dollars from citizens not charged with any crimes, claim you MUST have got it illegally and are not required to give it back unless you can prove you acquired the money legally. Now go get a lawyer to get your money back.

Stop and seize | The Washington Post

"America, Land of the Free"


that is one law that should be gotten rid of completely. also, never ever give any cop permission to search your vehicle at all, and never answer their questions without an attorney present.
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Exactly, when we owned a bar and hotel, we routinely carried about $5K cash on us.
That's my point, not everyone who carries large sums of cash is a drug dealer and the police should not assume they are.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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This is scary because I occasionally pull out large amounts of cash (thousands) to pay bills and buy necessities.

Only blacks, illegals, and mafia members pay their bills in cash.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:08 AM
 
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that is one law that should be gotten rid of completely. also, never ever give any cop permission to search your vehicle at all, and never answer their questions without an attorney present.

Sure. Pay attorney fees every time you get a speeding ticket lol
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:09 AM
 
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That's my point, not everyone who carries large sums of cash is a drug dealer and the police should not assume they are.
Buddy, honestly, do you see business owners complaining here? Everybody knows that were talking about drug money here.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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No charges, but police can keep the cash | The Journal Gazette
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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SARAH STILLMAN, The New Yorker: Well, most people are familiar with this idea of criminal forfeiture.

And that’s a widely supported notion that, if you’re profiting from crime — let’s say you’re a big drug kingpin — and you have bought your Malibu mansion and your Gulfstream jet with the proceeds of your crime, then those things will be taken away from you. And that make a lot of sense again to people.

But many folks are unfamiliar with the idea of civil forfeiture, which is actually a case brought against, directly against a piece a property, where you don’t need to be proven guilty of a crime for your goods to be taken away. And many of the conventional protections that you have under the criminal process are not afforded to you in a civil forfeiture case.

RAY SUAREZ: So, there’s no trial. There’s no requirement to provide evidence to prove the state’s suspicion. They just take your stuff.

SARAH STILLMAN: Exactly.

And you don’t even have the right to a lawyer. So, conventionally, if you’re facing the loss of your home or the loss of your car or cash, normally, at the very least, you would have someone who is able to represent you in these claims.

In places like Washington, D.C., you have to even pay $2,500 simply for the right to contest the case. And you’re, again, not entitled to representation when you do that. So it can be a very costly process and also just a very confusing, arduous process to figure out, how do you contest?

Are Innocent Citizens at Risk of Police Seizure of Their Cash, Cars and Homes? | PBS NewsHour
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Because it is often easier to buy with cash? And because many older folks don't trust banks.
B of A had a real scam going where they charge you to use a teller. I deposited 20g and found out days later they charged me 200 bucks to use a teller. I threatened to pull out every dime and they ended up reversing it. How many elderly have been duped by that? No wonder they don't trust banks.
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Old 09-09-2014, 11:32 AM
 
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Buddy, honestly, do you see business owners complaining here? Everybody knows that were talking about drug money here.
I guess you must have located some sort of "everybody knows" exception to the 4th amendment. Could you point it out for the rest of us?
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