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When the scientific community comes forward and says its not happening that's when its not happening. When right wing, tin foil hat wearing morons on the internet who are given their opinions by people who are largely funded by the oil lobby then say that it's not happening, it still is.
Speaking of moronic...what really strikes me as funny is LWNJs who always want to point out tin foil hats. When, if ever, was the last time you saw TIN foil? When was the last time you personally held some in your hand?
What you most likely mean is aluminum foil. I have no idea what use aluminum foil would have as a hat.
BTW - The climate is changing the same as it would a thousand years ago.
Which is exactly what the scientist and meteorologists predicted a couple of decades ago.
There is no debating that the polar ice caps are shrinking. In laypersons terms, that means they are melting.
As predicted, this melting will, in the short term, cool bodies of water, and create a cooling effect further away from the poles than is typical. In the US we have felt this with certain periods being oddly cooler than is normal. We have also felt it with more and more violent storms springing up as this cooler air, escaping from the earth's poles, collides with more seasonably warm weather around the middle of the earth.
Once the caps are melted to a point of diminishment, these cooler areas will heat more quickly and global temperatures will rise at an alarmingly swift rate.
Sure there is debate. I see many different stories on exactly what is happening to the ice caps.
And scientists and meteorologist predicted NO SUCH THING. All they said is it would be friggin HOT by now and it's not. It's the coolest decade we've had in Minnesota, Wisconsin, North & South Dakota, Iowa and in fact the entire eastern seaboard as well. The coolest decade in many, many years.
Northern Europe is having the coolest decade in at least 4 decades.
And by many accounts? There is more polar ice now than ever in recorded history.
Sure there is debate. I see many different stories on exactly what is happening to the ice caps.
And scientists and meteorologist predicted NO SUCH THING. All they said is it would be friggin HOT by now and it's not. It's the coolest decade we've had in Minnesota, Wisconsin, North & South Dakota, Iowa and in fact the entire eastern seaboard as well. The coolest decade in many, many years.
Northern Europe is having the coolest decade in at least 4 decades.
And by many accounts? There is more polar ice now than ever in recorded history.
Stop with the lies.
And Australia had one of the hottest summers and it has been unseasonably hot on the West Coast. 90 degrees in September in the Northwest is abnormal.
I do get a kick out of how you completely ignored that it has been one of the wettest and stormy summers on the east coast, while it has been extremely hot on the west coast.
Here is a good example of the climate change we have been experiencing this year that many deniers seem to try and pretend it isn't happening.
Look, I'm no climate expert and I will frankly say I'm not 100% sure if there is or isn't global warming.
There are two very disturbing facts,
#1 - the glaciers in Glacier National Park are melting. More than half of those that existed when the park opened are gone and many, if not most of us will live to witness the disappearance of glaciers in Glacier National Park. National Geographic Magazine says that their original estimate of the melting of the glaciers will be complete by 2030 may be wrong: it might happen by 2020.
#2 - in the past 100 years gardeners in my city of Philadelphia have seen the "Hardiness Zone" raise from 6A to 6B to 7A and to 7B in most parts of the city (like my neighborhood). What does this mean? Now we can grow camellias and hibiscus and bamboo (subtropical plants) but our silver birch trees and wisterias are dying (it's getting too warm for them.)
In the 18th and 19th Centuries the harbor of New York and the port of Philadelphia would sometimes freeze solid; but that hasn't happened in 80 years.
We had some warming in the late 1980s and 1990s, thanks to some back-to-back El Nino events, but now we have had ZERO warming for longer then we saw warming. so does this mean we are in global cooling now?
Come to think of it.... if we truly are experiencing catastrophic anthropogenic global warming (CAGW) and if NASA and NOOA have told us we are in a 17 year "pause," then that means something is causing global cooling on a massive scale!!! Something has eclipsed CAGW!!!
So what is causing this incredible global cooling??????
Look, I'm no climate expert and I will frankly say I'm not 100% sure if there is or isn't global warming.
There are two very disturbing facts,
#1 - the glaciers in Glacier National Park are melting. More than half of those that existed when the park opened are gone and many, if not most of us will live to witness the disappearance of glaciers in Glacier National Park. National Geographic Magazine says that their original estimate of the melting of the glaciers will be complete by 2030 may be wrong: it might happen by 2020.
#2 - in the past 100 years gardeners in my city of Philadelphia have seen the "Hardiness Zone" raise from 6A to 6B to 7A and to 7B in most parts of the city (like my neighborhood). What does this mean? Now we can grow camellias and hibiscus and bamboo (subtropical plants) but our silver birch trees and wisterias are dying (it's getting too warm for them.)
In the 18th and 19th Centuries the harbor of New York and the port of Philadelphia would sometimes freeze solid; but that hasn't happened in 80 years.
Why?
Maybe because we are no longer living in the era of the Little Ice-Age? BTW, that LIA ended around 1910 or so.
How is that any different than a left-wing rag espousing global warming as fact.....and as such me or anyone else stating, ha ha. A left-wing blog?
The trick to knowing the facts is to read the science...You may want to try it sometime, but I warn you all the science, measurements and statistics support these facts.... The atmosphere and oceans are getting warmer, the glaciers and ice caps are melting, and the oceans are rising...Do you deny these facts?
it is disturbing the manner in which people, people that i know and like who are like me, can deny the melting of the polar ice caps. i got in the ocean yesterday. it was warm. not cool not cold ----warm.
this is not galveston. i know galveston, this is san diego.
Look, I'm no climate expert and I will frankly say I'm not 100% sure if there is or isn't global warming.
In the 18th and 19th Centuries the harbor of New York and the port of Philadelphia would sometimes freeze solid; but that hasn't happened in 80 years.
Why?
Why? Because in the 18th century, the Little Ice Age was still in full swing, and the warming began neighborhood 1850, and continues through this day.
The AGW folks deny that the LIA has any significance in recent climate history, which is probably why you are unaware of this factor in the discussion.
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if we truly are experiencing catastrophic anthropogenic global warming (CAGW) and if NASA and NOOA have told us we are in a 17 year "pause," then that means something is causing global cooling on a massive scale!!! Something has eclipsed CAGW!!! 
