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Old 08-21-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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"On stone tablets?"

Ah! Well even if informed reason and balance are hard to come by here, it's nice to think a good laugh might be possible!

Thanks for this one!
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:27 PM
 
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"You are forgetting Mitch McConnell."

Well, actually, I see it a little different. I don't think any real politician like McConnell necessarily needs or wants any POTUS to fail, because most really good politicians know how to take whatever success there may be and call it their own, while proving that all failures are because of the other guy. What the truth is either way doesn't really matter...

Remind you of any people who post in CD threads at all?
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Old 08-22-2015, 04:47 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Well:

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3) The economy has limped along. It has taken him better than 6 years to get unemployment to a comparable level to what Reagan was able to do in a little over two, and that is not even taking into consideration the entire issue of workforce participation being at a 27 years low.
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What a crock!!!!!

What were the "little over two" years that Reagan brought the UE to the level it is today? He had a UE rate of OVER 7% for FIVE YEARS - plus most of TWO MORE. That's 7 of his 8 years!!!!!!! The UE rate didn't drop to what it is today (5.3%) until November of 1988!!!!!! That was the month in which the first George Bush was elected. Reagan had a 5.3% UE rate for just the last 2 months of his entire 2-term presidency.

Do make this stuff up or are you just massively uninformed?
Reagan was a great president but the way you folks try and re-write the past is just staggering. Don't you understand that info is RECORDED and easy to verify/disprove?
Geeze!

Unemployment Rate - US | Portal Seven

The rest of your post is equally nonsense, but dealing with just one example of such garbage is all I can stomach at one time.

Ken

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Old 08-22-2015, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Yep, his one major accomplishment was to create a constitutional precedent that taxpayers can now be forced by government to purchase goods and services from private enterprises. What a distortion of Civil Liberties! Who knows where this will lead but private industry loves the concept!
Taxpayers aren't being forced by government to do anything of a sort. One may choose not to get a health insurance policy and you will be subject to a fine -- which the Supreme Court said was a tax, and taxation is a constitutional power of Congress.
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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What a crock!!!!!

What were the "little over two" years that Reagan brought the UE to the level it is today? He had a UE rate of OVER 7% for FIVE YEARS - plus most of TWO MORE. That's 7 of his 8 years!!!!!!! The UE rate didn't drop to what it is today (5.3%) until November of 1988!!!!!! That was the month in which the first George Bush was elected. Reagan had a 5.3% UE rate for just the last 2 months of his entire 2-term presidency.

Do make this stuff up or are you just massively uninformed?
Reagan was a great president but the way you folks try and re-write the past is just staggering. Don't you understand that info is RECORDED and easy to verify/disprove?
Geeze!

Unemployment Rate - US | Portal Seven

The rest of your post is equally nonsense, but dealing with just one example of such garbage is all I can stomach at one time.

Ken


Here
is the chart.

More to debunk the Reagan idolatry, Rex Nutting has a very nice article about the reality of Jimmy Carter’s presidency, which has been distorted out of recognition by the myth of Saint Reagan. As he points out, Carter presided over faster average job growth and lower unemployment than Reagan.
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Taxpayers aren't being forced by government to do anything of a sort. One may choose not to get a health insurance policy and you will be subject to a fine -- which the Supreme Court said was a tax, and taxation is a constitutional power of Congress.
Either buy this product from private industry or you will be fined!

Sure sounds like coersion to me. Sort of like don't cross against the feed light or you will be fined. The only difference is that Govenment is forcing you to buy from private industry or else!

Very nice. How much do you think Obama was paid off for this one? More out less than bailing out Wall Street? No worry, he doesn't pay for it. He just appoints some Puppets who make sure that savers get O% interest on their savings. Just keep stealing money Obama and giving it to private industry. You are a good puppet you are. Big money loves you. Smooch!
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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From my point of view president Obama is a resounding success except for the policies that were blocked by raciest Republican Konservative fanatics.
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Old 08-22-2015, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Either buy this product from private industry or you will be fined!

Sure sounds like coersion to me. Sort of like don't cross against the feed light or you will be fined. The only difference is that Govenment is forcing you to buy from private industry or else!

Very nice. How much do you think Obama was paid off for this one? More out less than bailing out Wall Street? No worry, he doesn't pay for it. He just appoints some Puppets who make sure that savers get O% interest on their savings. Just keep stealing money Obama and giving it to private industry. You are a good puppet you are. Big money loves you. Smooch!
I think Obama was paid off plenty for Obamacare -- by the voters, who re-elected him handily.

Government forcing you to buy from private industry is really not new. Do you have a car? Then government forces you to buy insurance.

Landlords are forced to buy smoke alarms from private industry. Power companies are forced to by smoke stack scrubbers -- TYRANNY!
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Old 08-22-2015, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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From my point of view president Obama is a resounding success except for the policies that were blocked by raciest Republican Konservative fanatics.
I agree. That jobs bill that the GOP Congress refused to pass would have come in handy three years ago.
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Old 08-23-2015, 08:48 AM
 
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Obama a success?

Perhaps, but I agree it is hard to give any one POTUS, Congress, economy, year, military engagement, world affair, Middle East development, cost per barrel of crude, hurricane, prime rate, DJIA or consumer spending index too much individual credit when they ALL factor only to some limited extent toward what makes for our tomorrow. Mostly, I think in terms of what choices we have, and who would have done any better, limited or otherwise, than Obama has done. If the GOP could do better in the way of alternatives, they might do better as a party, but instead the conservative alternative options seem only to maintain the status quo for those enjoying it or go backwards. When it is choices like Trump that lead the Republican charge, Obama looks better than ever in comparison.
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