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Old 09-15-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
Bullsh*t.
Uninsured rates are at record lows.
That's still 11.4%, as was posted. PLUS a RECORD 31 million Americans are now UNDERinsured. That's a total of 21.4% of all Americans who are still uninsured or are now UNDERinsured because of Obamacare. Epic fail.
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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So you are complaining that now only a small percentage of people need to be insured, when you didn't want any to be insured?
I'm saying 21.4% of all Americans are either still uninsured or are now significantly UNDERinsured at a cost of $1.5 trillion. Obamacare = Epic Fail.
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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And how many were UNDERinsured before?
As of 2003, only 12% instead of the 23% under Obamacare.

Obamacare’s Dirty Secret: 31 Million Still Can’t Afford Treatment

Obamacare roughly DOUBLED the amount of Americans who are UNDERinsured.

Not only do we STILL have 30 million uninsured, Obamacare has now boosted the number of UNDERinsured way up to 31 million.

Obamacare result: 61 million either still uninsured or now significantly UNDERinsured. Obamacare is a colossal failure.
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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That's still 11.4%, as was posted. PLUS a RECORD 31 million Americans are now UNDERinsured. That's a total of 21.4% of all Americans who are still uninsured or are now UNDERinsured because of Obamacare. Epic fail.
That's nuts. Obamacare made all the underinsured policies go away! Isn't that the complaint. You couldn't get "cheap" insurance anymore. Again complaining about an improvement to American life, so sad.
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:23 AM
 
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That's nuts. Obamacare made all the underinsured policies go away! Isn't that the complaint. You couldn't get "cheap" insurance anymore. Again complaining about an improvement to American life, so sad.
How is 30 million still uninsured and now unaffordable health care for 31 million people so that they're now classified as UNDERinsured, an improvement?

Obamacare’s Dirty Secret: 31 Million Still Can’t Afford Treatment
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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Then find the data going back further. Oh, too late:

One has to go back to the 1970s, when many workers were covered by union insurance, to get this level of uninsured. Man, you would think you would get tired of your arguments to be revealed as absurd.
So the one going back to 1970's shows the free market economy can and will insure the public.. WITHOUT government welfare, or adding trillions to the debt..

Meaning IT FAILED... along with your defense of it..
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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So you are complaining that now only a small percentage of people need to be insured, when you didn't want any to be insured? Single payer was the better option, but barring that, ACA is doing very well, with more to do.
We needed to pass ACA in order to insure 32 million uninsured americans.

We still have 32 million uninsured americans.

You were saying?
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:27 AM
 
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That's nuts. Obamacare made all the underinsured policies go away! Isn't that the complaint. You couldn't get "cheap" insurance anymore. Again complaining about an improvement to American life, so sad.
What drugs are you on?
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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As of 2003, only 12% instead of the 23% under Obamacare.

Obamacare’s Dirty Secret: 31 Million Still Can’t Afford Treatment

Obamacare roughly DOUBLED the amount of Americans who are UNDERinsured.

Not only do we STILL have 30 million uninsured, Obamacare has now boosted the number of UNDERinsured way up to 31 million.

Obamacare result: 61 million either still uninsured or now significantly UNDERinsured. Obamacare is a colossal failure.
The problem with your claim is that virtually ALL of that increase happened BEFORE Obamacare was implemented (most of Obamacare went into affect in 2013 and 2014) and that SINCE implementation those numbers are generally starting come back down. Underinsurance for those individually insured for example peaked in 2012 - BEFORE Obamacare was really in place - and by 2014 - once Obamacare WAS in place - was back down to the 2010 underinsured rate.

Sounds like you didn't actually READ the linked report.

Ken
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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I say the man is a success. seems to me he has succeeded in pretty much everything he wanted to do.

my problem is I think everything he wanted to do is bad for the country. shoot. there are dead people on the other side of the world that would argue the things Obama did is what got them killed... several thousand sex slaves would suggest their perverted torture was caused by Obamas success....


its still going to be 30 years before we can properly evaluate the results of Mr. Obama's tenure but if the measure is doing what he wanted to do, there have been few presidents that got more of what he wanted.
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