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Old 09-18-2014, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
Meet Joe Schmo. Joe is 53 years old. Joe was a laborer in the factory all his life, like his father before him. Joe has been a loyal Republican voter since he could vote.
And when he died he voted democrat.

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Joe's factory closed up, as millions of manufacturing jobs were outsourced. Joe was fortunate enough to find a job in the labor union. Unfortunately, Joe's politicians thought it was best if corporations had more rights, so Joe's state became a right to work state. Over the next few years, Joe's union had trouble retaining membership and eventually ceased to exist completely.
Joe made a bad decision

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Joe is a hard worker, but he hasn't received a raise since the union closed up. The company he found work with was facing some financial problems, so Joe was laid off. It appears Joe's skills aren't as diverse as the market requires, because he has no higher education or additional training. Joe goes down to the unemployment office and files for unemployment and food stamps. Unfortunatley, the governor in Joe's state signed a bill cutting unemployment and food stamps, because the state can't support leeches. Joe decides to sell his house and car, as he is no longer able to make the payments.
Joe keeps making bad decisions. He shouldnt have bought a house and should have purchased an inexpensive used car.

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Joe moves into an apartment of modest means, and is forced to take public transportation as he looks for a job. The public transportation has reduced hours of service, due to cuts from the state and local government. It appears they are cutting funding for transit so they can divert the funds for highway expansion. A local initiative to build a light rail in Joe's city was defeated by local and state officials, as it was deemed unnecessary spending.
Nice try. Reduced hours still cover most jobs. Need public transportation don't work the graveyard shift.

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Joe finally lands a few minimum wage jobs at walmart and McDonalds. Between jobs, he is studying to take up a new career. However, minimum wage hasn't raised in a few years. Local politicans are resisting a hike in the minimum wage, fearing inflation. Joe takes the bus to vote on the new ballot initiative regarding minimum wage. Unfortunately, polling hours have been reduced so Joe has to miss work to vote. Joe is a responsible, once-Republican voter, so he takes the steps to get a new ID just to vote. Joe has been following all the things his former party did to make his life more difficult, so he finally musters up the courage to vote for a different party. Unfortunately, Joe's move to a low-income neighborhood put him in a gerrymandered district. Unfortunately, Joe's state politicians captured another supermajority from the other 9 districts in the state...
So Joe can't figure out how to use the write in vote? Or he works 12 hour shifts and therefore can't get to the polls? Joe keeps making bad decisions. Sounds like the fools who continue to vote for big government which fails miserably.
Shame government had to get involved in the economy business. Every time they do we suffer booms and busts and the working stiff pays for it. Make your bed, lie in it.

 
Old 09-18-2014, 07:04 AM
 
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Republican policies reek, no question about that. It's why they need BILLIONS of money to sucker in votes, using that money to lie, cheat, rig elections, gerrymander, suppress the vote, so on and so forth. Their ideology can't sell itself. The last time they had someone at the helm, this country was headed for another Great Depression. Their effect on this country is horrific as you so clearly demonstrate in your post.

Excellent post.
Hahaha, should we go back and quote posters like yourself who used the BILLION dollar goal set by the Obama administration during his campaign as a sign of how wonderful the man was, as yet another reason to laugh at you.. As if we needed anymore.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 07:06 AM
 
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Meet Joe Schmo. Joe is 53 years old. Joe was a laborer in the factory all his life, like his father before him. Joe has been a loyal Republican voter since he could vote.
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And when he died he voted democrat..
Oh my god I couldnt read anymore of your posting, this part was utterly histerical and should end the thread...
 
Old 09-18-2014, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Hahaha, should we go back and quote posters like yourself who used the BILLION dollar goal set by the Obama administration during his campaign as a sign of how wonderful the man was, as yet another reason to laugh at you.. As if we needed anymore.
Which is better for the country: A couple hundred thousand donating to a candidate.

One guy giving a billion to a guy to keep him running.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Which is better for the country: A couple hundred thousand donating to a candidate.

One guy giving a billion to a guy to keep him running.
ask the nazi sympathizer George Soro's, who funds the fascist liberals
 
Old 09-18-2014, 07:28 AM
 
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So this whole thread is a hypothetical or did this actually happen?
 
Old 09-18-2014, 07:37 AM
 
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If you think the wage is the only factor, then you have no idea how to run a business.
It's a concept that liberals are generally either unwilling or unable to comprehend. I suspect it's the former - willful ignorance of the facts because those facts do not support their ideology.

They want to isolate wages from all other costs of doing business so they can spew their anti-capitalist rhetoric about the exploitation of poor people.

If you're operating your business in America with a 30% tax versus some third world nation with a 10% tax, then you're losing 20% of your revenue. Then there's the cost of regulatory compliance. And you have to factor in worker productivity and infrastructure and a host of other things.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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it's not the republican's fault that union workers are largely over-paid, making it impossible to compete with emerging markets.

I am no fan of the GOP. but this is a reach!
No kidding. Apparently unless the government forces every man to join a union or not be allowed to work, then the unions can't enlist enough workers to become members.

So it's the Republican's fault because they gave men and women the free will to decide on their own if they want to join a union.

Perhaps the Democrats have some responsibility for increasing the costs of running a business, by promoting punitive regulations, an extremely complicated, bureaucratic, and confusing tax code which levies high taxes, and ever expanding labor laws which micromanage day-to-day operations of every business?
 
Old 09-18-2014, 07:42 AM
 
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It's a concept that liberals are generally either unwilling or unable to comprehend. I suspect it's the former - willful ignorance of the facts because those facts do not support their ideology.

They want to isolate wages from all other costs of doing business so they can spew their anti-capitalist rhetoric about the exploitation of poor people.

If you're operating your business in America with a 30% tax versus some third world nation with a 10% tax, then you're losing 20% of your revenue. Then there's the cost of regulatory compliance. And you have to factor in worker productivity and infrastructure and a host of other things.
...and if you run a small, labor intensive business, where labor takes up 40% of your operating costs, and the libs want to double your employee wages...
 
Old 09-18-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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Yes, if it wasn't for the unions American workers could definitely compete with the Chinese workers making $2.00 an hour. Damn unions!
Why don't you blame Clinton for his trade agreement with China back in 2000? You don't think that made an impact?

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