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Old 09-12-2014, 06:49 AM
 
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No. My point is that the ACOG is NOT recommending you be able to buy BCP like condoms, or bubble gum. My point is they're recommending selling them w/o a prescription but WITH the screening. Yikes! How many posts did that take.
Self screening. You have no point to make.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:01 AM
 
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No. My point is that the ACOG is NOT recommending you be able to buy BCP like condoms, or bubble gum. My point is they're recommending selling them w/o a prescription but WITH the screening. Yikes! How many posts did that take.
Your post 89 was not as clear as you think ---

"Do note the ACOG recommends that women self-screen, in other words fill out a questionnaire before being able to purchase BCPs OTC."

I thought the bolded words meant a woman would be banned from buying bc until she completed some type of questionnaire. In fact, all you were doing is pointing out an ACOG recommendation, in less clear language.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:01 AM
 
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Actually I think the main reason they are thinking about changing it, is because gynecologists are losing business. The end result is just more unprotected sex, which will lead to more abortions.

In other countries, they will just check your blood pressure and then give you the pills. In America they have to give you an invasive and expensive exam, which can be traumatizing for teenagers.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:18 AM
 
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Actually I think the main reason they are thinking about changing it, is because gynecologists are losing business. The end result is just more unprotected sex, which will lead to more abortions.
How in the world would this lead to more women not being on B.C. ?

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In other countries, they will just check your blood pressure and then give you the pills. In America they have to give you an invasive and expensive exam, which can be traumatizing for teenagers.
The medical community seems to be saying that a full exam is no longer always necessary to get B.C. pills.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:31 AM
 
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why didn't you just post the original story from the Planned Parenthood website?

The Truth About Over-the-Counter Access to Birth Control - Planned Parenthood Action Center
"The truth is we don't want to be cut out of the profits...uh, we mean cut out of the care continuum. That's it. We care."
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:37 AM
 
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How in the world would this lead to more women not being on B.C. ?
Teenagers are often not too willing to visit their doctor, especially if it includes a full exam. Hence, they will just use condoms, sometimes. Other times they will use no protection at all, and you will end up with more teenage birth/abortions.


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The medical community seems to be saying that a full exam is no longer always necessary to get B.C. pills.
Maybe, but it currently depends on the doctor. That means women have to hop around from doctor to doctor till they find someone who want to force them into an invasive exam.

Teenagers are especially vulnerable to this, because they may not even know how to change their doctor, they not want their parents to find out and doctor appointments are expensive.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:37 AM
 
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If a woman has any history of menstruation problems, her doctor needs to know this. I had very heavy prolonged periods at 12 years old (1960) and they put me on "hormones" to correct it. It got better as I got older and I stopped taking them.

When I was in my 20's and needed BC, I did not tell my doctor about this. How would I even know what I took as a pre-teen? I had MAJOR problems taking the Combination Pill; breakthrough bleeding, and again, very heavy periods. My doctor put me on the Mini Pill (Progesterone only) and things were fine after that.

I know that many people think it should and can be sold over the counter, BUT an individual woman's medical history MUST be taken into consideration. It can have severe consequences for some women.

No, it isn't candy, and it not like a condom which very rarely will have any adverse reactions for a male.
Agreed.

Like you said: some women who DON'T have sex at all use the pill for the reasons you said.
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Old 09-12-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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Teenagers are often not too willing to visit their doctor, especially if it includes a full exam. Hence, they will just use condoms, sometimes. Other times they will use no protection at all, and you will end up with more teenage birth/abortions.
I still have no idea how this plays into that. I would certainly think the first time you would want to see a doctor but if its OTC you don't have to.

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Maybe, but it currently depends on the doctor. That means women have to hop around from doctor to doctor till they find someone who want to force them into an invasive exam.
Do you have a clue what this discussion is about?
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Old 09-12-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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When politician has an idea it translates into legislation, a bill.





At the present time OTC means not covered by insurance. Can you finally get that?


From your own link:

"We found that even the groups that advocate making the pill available over the counter — like Jessica Arons, president and CEO of the Reproductive Health Technologies Project and Dan Grossman, vice president for research at Ibis Reproductive Health — did not believe it was a cheaper alternative for consumers than requiring insurance companies to cover contraceptives without cost sharing."
Thank you.

I know some will question or deride the source, but, to those with objectivity, this will ring true:


GOP wants women to buy over-the-counter birth control with all the money they aren’t getting paid - Salon.com
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Old 09-12-2014, 10:53 AM
 
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I know some will question or deride the source, but, to those with objectivity, this will ring true:


GOP wants women to buy over-the-counter birth control with all the money they aren’t getting paid - Salon.com
I know some will question or deride the source, but, to those with objectivity, this will ring true:


Progressive Bubble Struggles to Comprehend GOP's OTC Birth Control Push

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