Despite all the happy talk, support for Obamacare falling.. (Putin, illegal, death)

[wjtwet]

Originally Posted by Iamme73

Show yourself

You claimed these 7 cities had premiums go down so please show those cities and the money

[Ed from California]

And the lying barrybots keep on lying.

[Iamme73]

Originally Posted by wjtwet

You claimed these 7 cities had premiums go down so please show those cities and the money

I claim nothing. It is what's been widely reported. I am simply relaying that reporting.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Iamme73

I claim nothing. It is what's been widely reported. I am simply relaying that reporting.

So you got nothing is what you're saying.

[Iamme73]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

Obama, the WH council of advisors and the Census Bureau all said 46 million.
But once enrollment started the WH changed their tune to hoping 8 million would sign up.


CURL: We overhauled U.S. health care
President Obama said it in August 2009: “I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

He said it dozens more times, including in June 2013: “We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children.”

The Obama administration pumped the number with official reports. The White House Council of Economic Advisers said, “Perhaps the most visible sign of the need for health care reform is the 46 million Americans currently without health insurance.” The Census Bureau got in on the act, too, saying some 48 million Americans lacked health insurance.

Huh, that's fine, but the 46 million includes millions of undocumented immigrants and millions of people who live in states in which conservatives didn't expand Medicaid.

[Iamme73]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

So you got nothing is what you're saying.

Lol, this isn't about me. This question is one of knowing or not knowing. Any person not knowing something doesn't change the reality of situation.

I say to all go get some knowledge for yourself. Again it was widely reported. It won't be difficult to find.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Iamme73

Huh, that's fine, but the 46 million includes millions of undocumented immigrants and millions of people who live in states in which conservatives didn't expand Medicaid.

Backtracking on your "10 million" comment now ?

Obama said 46 million CITIZENS right up until he said 8 million.
There is the key word so it does not include the illegal aliens.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

Those 46 million Americans that had no insurance and wanted it all disappeared after Obamacare got passed.
Obamacare changed a $3 trillion system to accommodate 4.2 million people. The other 41.8 million disappeared.

are you arguing that we should have either solved the problem completely or done nothing at all ???? That idea seems incredibly moronic to me.


Changing that system actually saved our nation money, so what exactly is your point ?

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

We were told 46 million.
4.2 million signed up.

Hardly "highly successful".

4.2 million more people being insured than previously uninsured is successful.

You want that number to be more, so do i , but that doesnt change the fact that 4.2 million is better than 0.

[theunbrainwashed]

Originally Posted by Ed from California

And the lying barrybots keep on lying.

I noticed you haven't addressed my post.