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Old 09-16-2014, 09:36 PM
 
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You financial analysis, ignoring the past contributions of active workers and then calling them leeches in retirement.....makes me think whomever told you things worked that way would be better positioned digging latrines for a living.
You're the math guy so tell me how many government programs do you subscribe to and do you think you will get back less than you paid into? Most Tea Partiers are taking the taxpayers to the cleaners.
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:40 PM
 
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no, no it didnt.. the 50 million INCLUDED illegals, and when someone pointed out illegals wouldnt be covered, the total was 30 million AMERICANS..

note the story, it says 41 million AMERICANS...

WE NOW HAVE 11 MILLION MORE UNINSURED than before.
I don't believe your numbers.

In 2007 the uninsured number was 45.7 million.
In 2006 the number was 47 million.
2007 was the first decline in 7 years...

Number of Uninsured Americans Drops - US News

Now, the reason I don't believe you is 2007 was before the financial crisis and before employers started downsizing in response. According to the US census there were 49 million uninsured in 2009.

https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlth...ighlights.html

Also, according to the US census there were 46.3 million uninsured in 2008. Where are you getting the 30 million number from?

https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlth...2008/fig06.pdf
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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All you have to know about this phony and inaccurate report.
"I don't like the positive numbers, so I'm going to make up my own, while pretending these don't exist".

Signed, pretty much every right-winger

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Old 09-18-2014, 07:18 AM
 
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more people with health insurance = lower total costs as fewer ERs are used by uninsured for routine , non emergency treatment.
False.

Few doctors will see Medicaid patients (which has been much of the expanded "insured") so they go to ER's which must see them.

About 50% of my business is processing ER charts for hospitals and I can assure you I see diagnoses like "bug bites" and "backache" constantly. The payor is almost always Medicaid.

Ambulances are another Medicaid racket.
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