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Old 09-18-2014, 08:40 PM
 
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Anyone who uses the term teabagger is emotionally undeveloped and wets the bed
Same with anyone who uses the term "*******s". Seriously, why does anyone do this. I think they are just immature and uneducated

 
Old 09-18-2014, 08:50 PM
 
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Same with anyone who uses the term "*******s". Seriously, why does anyone do this. I think they are just immature and uneducated
Yep. An interesting and needed discussions as expected simply devolves into name calling.

But when your desire is to demonize others as opposed go discussing a subject, that is what we get.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 08:51 PM
 
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Great come back!
Hey, why don't we call Obama swooners Obaggers?
Perfect. From now on, the obots are obaggers.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Purgatory
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Perfect. From now on, the obots are obaggers.
Two put - downs in one sentence.

Good times.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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The fun has not even begun.
Sure it has...Obama has opened the floodgates of hell to all who want to come from south of the border. He won't be POTUS in 20 years when the real pain is felt.
How will the federal government fund everything promised to those who came here and their numerous offspring? Those folks have no skin in the game at all. Their relatives haven't been paying into the system since the day they could work. That's millions of Monopoly pieces added to the game overnight...all are passing GO and collecting $200 day after day.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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There are Cancer Treatments that cost $100,000 and best case, extend a terminal patient's life by 3-4 weeks compared to no late stage treatment. This is unsustainable, especially given that 10,000 people a day are turning 65 and will continue to do so for the next 20 years.

AARP is the largest and most powerful lobby.

The fun has not even begun.
You know, it's only been since around 1970 that people have had to think seriously about this. Used to be, medicine would throw everything it had at a sick person, because we were so powerless.

In a previous life, I was a nurse, and believe me, plenty of people are tortured to death in the name of "doing everything we can." There really does come a time to let go. I hope that we boomers as a group are more realistic about these decisions.

My mother died of pneumonia/alzheimers. About two years before she died, we sat her down and made sure we knew how she felt about end of life care, although we were pretty sure we already knew, given what she had always said throughout her life. She was pretty spacey in many ways by then, but she had no trouble articulating what she wanted us to do or not do in the several possible situations we questioned her about. We taped the conversation, so if anyone had any questions at all about what she wanted, we could listen to her words again.

The last time she went to the hospital, with aspiration pneumonia, we had no trouble telling the doc that it was time, we only wanted palliative care. He had no trouble agreeing with us, and sedated her into a light coma, so she didn't feel fear or discomfort. The hospital had no trouble with it either. And it was a catholic hospital.

Better to face the inevitable with information and reasoned decision. I can't understand why there is any controversy about this.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 03:39 AM
 
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There is controversy because of all the lies.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 05:24 AM
 
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Heres a link that shows a map thats divided up into different areas and shows how much variation we have in spending for Medicare in the last two years of life. The average Medicare payment is about $62,000 and the highest is $112,000.

Sarah Palin by the way got lie of the year for her Facebook posting on Death Panels in 2009. In 2010 Republicans in large part got elected by running to the left of Democrats on the Medicare issue.

How much money do we waste on useless health care? - Vox
 
Old 09-19-2014, 05:36 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Sarah Palin by the way got lie of the year for her Facebook posting on Death Panels in 2009.
You really blow the discussion of a good subject by including stuff like this.
Any Palin lies are minor compared to Obama's but none of that is important in end of life discussions.

Is your subject Death Panels or Big Lies Told by our Politicians ?
 
Old 09-19-2014, 05:46 AM
 
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You really blow the discussion of a good subject by including stuff like this.
Any Palin lies are minor compared to Obama's but none of that is important in end of life discussions.

Is your subject Death Panels or Big Lies Told by our Politicians ?
It was Palin and the Republicans who derailed the end of life discussions five years ago and Medicare agreed not to fund the program. Now of course its coming back five years later and one trillion dollars spent for the last two years of Medicare recipients lives.

Death panels: It was a big lie. Repairs on way. (Editorial) | NJ.com
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