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Old 09-21-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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They do get equal rights.

Why should they be allowed to have their DL picture taken with their veil? That's over and above equal rights.
I'm no expert on Islam.. but if their religious text requires certain garmets it would be a violation of the 1st Amendment to forcibly remove them.

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Why do they deserve meat in school cafeterias prepared according to Muslim law? That's over.
You answered your own question - Muslim law. We have the freedom of religion in America. Did you forget?

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Why should they be exempted from doing their job as a cashier? Over.
Handling certain meats is in violation of their religious text, which is protected by the 1st Amendment.

You clearly don't give a rip about the constitution.

 
Old 09-21-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Where I live.
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I'm no expert on Islam.. but if their religious text requires certain garmets it would be a violation of the 1st Amendment to forcibly remove them.



You answered your own question - Muslim law. We have the freedom of religion in America. Did you forget?



Handling certain meats is in violation of their religious text, which is protected by the 1st Amendment.

You clearly don't give a rip about the constitution.
Has nothing to do with the US Constitution. The first amendment does not give someone the right to circumvent US laws.

One of the main purposes of a driver's license is for clear identification. It has nothing to do with religion. It's a law. You are now required to remove your glasses for your DL picture in Texas. So if she is allowed to wear her veil, that is unlawful special treatment.

This is not a Muslim country, and the United States does not have to observe Muslim law.

If they don't want to handle the meat, don't take the job. It goes with it.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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One can only hope that someone will find hate-inciter Pamela Geller's phone number and post it on the ads.

She sounds like an idiot.

Anders Breivik's Christian Terrorism in Norway: Are Pamela Geller and other anti-Islamist bloggers responsible?
 
Old 09-21-2014, 12:33 PM
 
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Has nothing to do with the US Constitution. The first amendment does not give someone the right to circumvent US laws.

One of the main purposes of a driver's license is for clear identification. It has nothing to do with religion. It's a law. You are now required to remove your glasses for your DL picture in Texas. So if she is allowed to wear her veil, that is unlawful special treatment.

This is not a Muslim country, and the United States does not have to observe Muslim law.

If they don't want to handle the meat, don't take the job. It goes with it.
Um, it has everything to do with the U.S. constitution. The Constitution is supreme law in this country. It absolutely gives someone the right to circumvent US laws. Hence, why laws can be ruled "unconstitutional."

Wearing a viel is not unlawful special treatment. If her religious text strictly states she must wear the garmet, removing it would be complying with an unconstitutional law.

The United States is not a Muslim country, Christian country, or Jewish country. Our country has no established religion.

If they don't want to handle the meat and it can be cited in the religious text, their employer must respect their religion and assign them elsewhere.

The constitution is not debatable. Put your bigotry aside and get over it.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Where I live.
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Um, it has everything to do with the U.S. constitution. The Constitution is supreme law in this country. It absolutely gives someone the right to circumvent US laws. Hence, why laws can be ruled "unconstitutional."

Wearing a viel is not unlawful special treatment. If her religious text strictly states she must wear the garmet, removing it would be complying with an unconstitutional law.

The United States is not a Muslim country, Christian country, or Jewish country. Our country has no established religion.

If they don't want to handle the meat and it can be cited in the religious text, their employer must respect their religion and assign them elsewhere.

The constitution is not debatable. Put your bigotry aside and get over it.
USATODAY.com - Muslim woman cannot wear veil in driver's license photo
 
Old 09-21-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
Um, it has everything to do with the U.S. constitution. The Constitution is supreme law in this country. It absolutely gives someone the right to circumvent US laws. Hence, why laws can be ruled "unconstitutional."

Wearing a viel is not unlawful special treatment. If her religious text strictly states she must wear the garmet, removing it would be complying with an unconstitutional law.

The United States is not a Muslim country, Christian country, or Jewish country. Our country has no established religion.

If they don't want to handle the meat and it can be cited in the religious text, their employer must respect their religion and assign them elsewhere.

The constitution is not debatable. Put your bigotry aside and get over it.
So you don't believe in restrictions on arms rights?
 
Old 09-21-2014, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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One can only hope that someone will find hate-inciter Pamela Geller's phone number and post it on the ads.

She sounds like an idiot.

Anders Breivik's Christian Terrorism in Norway: Are Pamela Geller and other anti-Islamist bloggers responsible?
She is a first class nutburger just interested in profiting off hatred, her group was protesting the construction of a mosque near the world trade center unfortunately they didn't realize there was already a mosque.

This is just to stir more hatred and avoid a solution, I am sure she will profit from this but not well thought out. She might just get targeted by the radical fringe.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 12:51 PM
 
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So you don't believe in restrictions on arms rights?
Are you deflecting the topic?
 
Old 09-21-2014, 12:55 PM
 
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What part of in the religious text did you not understand?

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Wearing a viel is not unlawful special treatment. If her religious text strictly states she must wear the garmet, removing it would be complying with an unconstitutional law.
If it is in there, she has a case. If not, she doesn't. Like I said, I'm not an expert on Islamic law.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 01:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Are you deflecting the topic?
Nope, just an analogy I would like you to explain. You said the constitution was not debatable when someone mentioned restrictions on "religion." So why are gun restrictions debatable but "religious" restrictions are not?
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