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Old 09-21-2014, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
Then those 31 States are violating the US Constitution.

If it is a lawful public act in one State, then all States are required to recognize its legitimacy, regardless of what their State laws say.
Nope. Reciprocity has to be agreed upon by both states.

 
Old 09-21-2014, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Here
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
They are denying her right to use her married last name.
She can get a license in her name, just not her new married name because Texas does not recognize the marriage as being legal.
This solves her dilemma and she can drive if she wants to. They are trying to gain publicity and force Texas to acknowledge and recognize their so-called “marriage”.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This solves her dilemma and she can drive if she wants to. They are trying to gain publicity and force Texas to acknowledge and recognize their so-called “marriage”.
They can get in line then. Texas amended their constitution in 2005 regarding marriage (one man and one woman). The amendment also says it will not recognize same sex marriages from other states.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 04:46 PM
 
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Okay, I see her name was already legally changed. No, they wont take the marriage license as a form of ID. However, they will take a Passport, Military ID, SS card, CA license, W2, Tax return, Birth Certificate and so on. Its various combinations of primary and secondary IDs that are accepted. She can get the license, just show a different ID.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 04:51 PM
 
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Okay, I see her name was already legally changed. No, they wont take the marriage license as a form of ID. However, they will take a Passport, Military ID, SS card, CA license, W2, Tax return, Birth Certificate and so on. Its various combinations of primary and secondary IDs that are accepted. She can get the license, just show a different ID.
She showed all she had - the documentation that her name was legally changed, a CA driver's license with her new legal name, her SS card with her new legal name, etc, etc, etc.

Still not good enough for a gay person in Texas.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 04:53 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
What makes driving a privilege? Did the state buy your vehicle? Do you not pay for the use and maintenance of public roads through taxation?

In order to be a privilege it must be something that is granted. What is the state granting you that you have not already paid for through taxation or the purchase of a vehicle?
It's not the driving that is a privilege, it's the driver's license that is a privilege (you can drive on private roads without a license. However, there is a court case or two that extend the right to driving on public roads, but I don't think those cases ever made it to the SCOTUS.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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She showed all she had - the documentation that her name was legally changed, a CA driver's license with her new legal name, her SS card with her new legal name, etc, etc, etc.

Still not good enough for a gay person in Texas.
Texas Constitution says Texas does not recognize same sex marriages from other states.
SS and previous driver license is not listed.

TxDPS - Identification Requirements
Acceptable documents:

Marriage license
Divorce decree
Court ordered name change
 
Old 09-21-2014, 05:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
Texas Constitution says Texas does not recognize same sex marriages from other states.
SS and previous driver license is not listed.

TxDPS - Identification Requirements
Acceptable documents:

Marriage license
Divorce decree
Court ordered name change
So she complied with the law. She provided documentation of her legal name change in the appropriate form.

She didn't provide documentation for the purposes of having a marriage recognized. She didn't provide documentation for the purpose of obtaining a marriage licence or to exercise any legal rights of marriage. She showed appropriate documentation of her legal name change.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by hammertime33 View Post
So she complied with the law. She provided documentation of her legal name change in the appropriate form.

She didn't provide documentation for the purposes of having a marriage recognized. She didn't provide documentation for the purpose of obtaining a marriage licence or to exercise any legal rights of marriage. She showed appropriate documentation of her legal name change.
You just refuse to acknowledge that Texas does not recognize a same sex marriage license as a legal document so what's the point of any debate with you ?

For $250 she can get a document but she doesn't want to.
Instead she will end up whining about a law that has been in effect for nearly 10 years.
She can sit and stew on it and wait for the Supreme Court to rule on that and what 30 other states have.
 
Old 09-21-2014, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
You just refuse to acknowledge that Texas does not recognize a same sex marriage license as a legal document so what's the point of any debate with you ?

For $250 she can get a document but she doesn't want to.
Instead she will end up whining about a law that has been in effect for nearly 10 years.
She can sit and stew on it and wait for the Supreme Court to rule on that and what 30 other states have.
There's a difference between not recognizing the marriage (which is not allowed by Texas law or the a Texas Constitution) and not recognizing the marriage license as a legal document.
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