Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 09-22-2014, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Gone
25,231 posts, read 16,929,539 times
Reputation: 5932

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisFromChicago View Post
anyone find the irony of "free people" and allowing slavery to be a just bit ironic

I mean damn, who was free in 1779? Not people of African dissent, not women, not children, not Irish, or Catholics, etc


I would say that - compared today - we in the USA are a lot more "free" than those in 1779
What you forgot was those the whine the most about wanting to go backwards in time to find their Freedom are not people that belong to any of those groups you listed.

 
Old 09-22-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
36,856 posts, read 17,350,188 times
Reputation: 14459
Me.

Attack me...I fight back.

Everyone else is on their own.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 10:50 AM
 
56,988 posts, read 35,179,016 times
Reputation: 18824
Quote:
Originally Posted by no1brownsfan View Post
The USA. However; Driller does make a good argument for helping Canada simply because we share a great resource with them in the Great Lakes.
LMAO...please.

If I put my life on the line for Canada, there'd have to be a hell of a lot more at stake than the Great Lakes.

Otherwise, they're on their own.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
8,802 posts, read 8,894,702 times
Reputation: 4512
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
I don't mean sending an army, or sending money and other aid.

No..YOU'D have to go yourself, pick up a rifle and fight.

If some random nation other than ours were attacked by another country (unjustifiably...or maybe not) and desperately needed military help and allowed people from other nations to take up arms with them, which country would it have to be for you to personally take up arms and help?

Me personally, the United States is the only country i'd fight for. But i'm sure some of you would fight to help another nation if attacked provided that you could get there somehow.
I might be tempted to fight for Canada.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 10:52 AM
 
13,943 posts, read 5,615,884 times
Reputation: 8603
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisFromChicago View Post
anyone find the irony of "free people" and allowing slavery to be a just bit ironic

I mean damn, who was free in 1779? Not people of African dissent, not women, not children, not Irish, or Catholics, etc

I would say that - compared today - we in the USA are a lot more "free" than those in 1779
By "free" I meant the size of the government intrusion into the lives of the average person. Slavery was legal everywhere in the world at the time of nation's founding. That doesn't excuse the practice, but it does show that the US was certainly not the unique perpetrator of it either.

By "free" I also meant a citizenry that was at its peak for opposing virtually every encroachment of the federal government with much greater zeal than any group of Americans since.

Thanks for the slavery red herring though, always nice to watch fallacies in action.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
16,911 posts, read 10,582,210 times
Reputation: 16439
I wouldn't fight for any country.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
16,911 posts, read 10,582,210 times
Reputation: 16439
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisFromChicago View Post
Humanity, if we are attacked by an outside force only (i..e Aliens)

no specific country is more awesome than my life
It would be pointless to fight aliens. We would just lose. I would rather kill myself and not give them
The pleasure of doing it.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
19,743 posts, read 22,635,943 times
Reputation: 24902
Any in the NATO Alliance. I figure if any other country is willing to go to war for us, I'd fight for them any day of the week.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 11:11 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
15,896 posts, read 11,981,679 times
Reputation: 7502
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
LMAO...please.

If I put my life on the line for Canada, there'd have to be a hell of a lot more at stake than the Great Lakes.

Otherwise, they're on their own.

Well, DD I live in a Great Lakes state, and therefore there is a vested interest. We sit next to one of the largest supplies of freshwater in the world in which we share with Canada. Chances are if an aggressor is trying to take over Canada, they're going to try to screw with the US as well, and perhaps screw around with the Great Lakes watershed. Other than that I'm with you in terms of not sending our troops overseas to police the world, and fighting other people's wars.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 11:14 AM
 
56,988 posts, read 35,179,016 times
Reputation: 18824
Quote:
Originally Posted by no1brownsfan View Post
Well, DD I live in a Great Lakes state, and therefore there is a vested interest. We sit next to one of the largest supplies of freshwater in the world in which we share with Canada. Chances are if an aggressor is trying to take over Canada, they're going to try to screw with the US as well, and perhaps screw around with the Great Lakes watershed. Other than that I'm with you in terms of not sending our troops overseas to police the world, and fighting other people's wars.
Half of those lakes belong to Canada. As long as they don't mess with our half, I'll be fine.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:40 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top