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Originally Posted by Kibby
My "in-house expert" is out bird watching this am. What is the range of the Warthog? I'm guessing that for it to operate in the Iraq/Syria area, it has to be based pretty close. Do you know?
Slow is good when you are going for convoys of fighters .... and it's sure a lot cheaper if they decide to use them. I think it's dumb for the Air Force to try and get rid of the Warthog, but that's just me (and the in-house expert)
Speed: 420 miles per hour (Mach 0.56)
Range: 800 miles (695 nautical miles)
Armament: One 30 mm GAU-8/A seven-barrel Gatling gun; up to 16,000 pounds (7,200 kilograms) of mixed ordnance on eight under-wing and three under-fuselage pylon stations, including 500 pound (225 kilograms) Mk-82 and 2,000 pounds (900 kilograms) Mk-84 series low/high drag bombs, incendiary cluster bombs, combined effects munitions, mine dispensing munitions, AGM-65 Maverick missiles and laser-guided/electro-optically guided bombs; infrared countermeasure flares; electronic countermeasure chaff; jammer pods; 2.75-inch (6.99 centimeters) rockets; illumination flares and AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles.
We do have one plane that does what you are talking about - some call it "the flying gun". The Air Force is trying to retire it, but it has life until at least 2015 ....... and it was just deployed to the Mid-East.
As for the military strikes early this morning - ammo depots were hit, ISIS headquarters in Raqqa were hit and military installations were hit. Not bad for a 1st strike. ISIS has been evacuating it's people (leadership & their families) out of Raqqa for a couple of weeks. Many of the citizens of Raqqa have been trying to sneak out of the City and into villages for the same time-period.
They also have the AC-130 Gunship which would be a complete nightmare to ISIS caught out in an open convoy. While the Warthog has one Gatling gun (30mm) the AC130 can have eight of them (4 * 20mm and 4 * 7.62mm), or more typically it would have a mix of Gatling guns and cannons (like 2 * 20mm, 2 * 7.62 and 2 Bofors cannons)
That red line made long ago, must have finally been crossed.
You guys do know, Obama has been bombing them in Syria with drones for over a month now.
They are going to tell you what you want to hear. Not the truth.
We told Putin off so we could get in there some how.
Syria has a defense treaty with Russia and we just attacked a sovereign nation who hasn't attacked US.What if Putin makes aggressive moves to counter our actions ? I'm afraid its about to get very bloody soon... God help us!
Putin won't do anything.
He supports Assad and we are bombing terrorists. Unlike Obama, Putin isn't stupid.
This campaign has the mark of this great and intelligent President Obama. His approach is far more advanced than anything that Republicans could come up with. Neanderthal diplomacy by the GOP only makes matters worse. President Obama helps the people of this troubled region, HELP THEMSELVES. They participate, with the aid of the US. They cause the change that they want, with the help of the US. It's happening now in Syria.
What a far cry from the Republican way: Go in there after LYING to Congress, drop a whole bunch of bombs, expecting those people to change their ideology because of "shock and awe". An entirely ineffective campaign which accomplishes little but cause the home front to bleed to death. The "shock and awe" occurs at home, due to the utter stupidity of it. NOT under this President. ISIS feeling the heat, even from Arab people. Incredible.
Is it a serious campaign, or just one that is designed to look busy, while being ineffective?
Good question - I wouldn't say it's "ineffective", but it's also not very clear about what is going on. The US Media finally started reporting on what has been in the Mid-East press for weeks .... which is that Team Obama was trying to cut a deal with Iran for their help with ISIS and that Team Obama is supporting Bashar al-Assad to be the "stabilization" of Syria and "contain" ISIS.
None of this would go over well with either the Sunni Nations OR with Israel. Giving Iran their "flexibility" to attain Nuclear weapons is no bargain. The word "flexibility" is coming straight out of Tehran and they make no secret about it. Also a report in the New York Times and Lebanon Daily Star about an 'alliance' of sorts between the US and Hezbollah. Strong denials from the US on these Shiite Alliances ..... but there is certainly something to it, it's been all over the ME & Iranian news for weeks.
Today's strike on ISIS, and the GCC 'co-operation' may put some of that "talk" to rest, but part of the fear of the GCC/Sunni nations is that Obama would not follow through on all his "Talk" - it's going to take more that one day or even one week of Air Strikes in Syria.
If you knew squat about the Middle East you would realize that Saudi Arabia is no JV team.
Their military experience was the 1st Gulf War in 1991 23 years ago!
A 18 year old Saudi soldier then is a fat Omar the Tent Maker now or a goat farmer camel jockey!
You guys do know, Obama has been bombing them in Syria with drones for over a month now.
They are going to tell you what you want to hear.
They were surveillance drones, along with surveillance aircraft. You may want to research your "claims" before posting them, or at least provide a link to support them.
Do you think that the strikes that just took place were random targets???
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The "shock and awe" occurs at home, due to the utter stupidity of it. NOT under this President. ISIS feeling the heat, even from Arab people. Incredible.
They were surveillance drones, along with surveillance aircraft. You may want to research your "claims" before posting them, or at least provide a link to support them.