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Old 09-24-2014, 08:12 AM
 
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NEW YORK -- For the first time in years, more than 1 million New Yorkers are smoking, according to data released Monday, marking a disturbing rise of tobacco use in the city that pioneered a number of anti-smoking initiatives that were emulated nationally.

Sixteen percent of adult New Yorkers smoked in 2013, up from 14 percent in 2010, which was the city's lowest recorded rate, according to the findings released by New York City's Department of Health.
Link: Smoking rates on the rise in New York City - Times-Gazette | Ashland & Ashland County, Ohio

Well, well, well. More evidence that societal engineering doesn't work. Unfortunately, nanny state liberals won't stop until everyone acts and does what they think is appropriate. For smokers, that means not smoking.

The war on smokers in New York City will never end, I'm afraid, despite its lack of results.
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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So a 2% increase from the lowest recorded rate in New York history that is an extra approximately 20 people form the 1,000 person survey. Not normalized for background (recent transplants), new smokers, or anything...just raw numbers. According to the study the first increase in a very long yearly decrease in smoking rates (decades).

I think you are more than a bit premature in declaring liberalism dead

Also, don't you have anything better to do than sift through small newspaper publications online?
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Link: Smoking rates on the rise in New York City - Times-Gazette | Ashland & Ashland County, Ohio

Well, well, well. More evidence that societal engineering doesn't work. Unfortunately, nanny state liberals won't stop until everyone acts and does what they think is appropriate. For smokers, that means not smoking.

The war on smokers in New York City will never end, I'm afraid, despite its lack of results.

It is basically the 2nd lowest in history instead of the lowest....
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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I will note that several of the articles I read cited the deep budget cuts as perhaps being a factor (i.e., advertising the risk of smoking, free nicotine patches, etc).

NYU News : NYC smoking rates rise as budgets fall

I cannot find the actual report from the NYC health department. I wonder if the survey includes users of e-cigarettes as 'smokers'.
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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Link: Smoking rates on the rise in New York City - Times-Gazette | Ashland & Ashland County, Ohio

Well, well, well. More evidence that societal engineering doesn't work. Unfortunately, nanny state liberals won't stop until everyone acts and does what they think is appropriate. For smokers, that means not smoking.

The war on smokers in New York City will never end, I'm afraid, despite its lack of results.
I'm def Ok with smoking, just keep it outside. Tho the ban against E cigs inside I DO have a problem with.
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:40 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Oh gawd, not another "war on" some group of professional victims...
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:41 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Well, well, well. More evidence that societal engineering doesn't work. Unfortunately, nanny state liberals won't stop until everyone acts and does what they think is appropriate. For smokers, that means not smoking.

The war on smokers in New York City will never end, I'm afraid, despite its lack of results.
Get a clue, it's not liberals who continually make lame attempts at societal engineering such as whining about who's sleeping with whom.
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Old 09-24-2014, 09:01 AM
 
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I'm def Ok with smoking, just keep it outside. Tho the ban against E cigs inside I DO have a problem with.
I don't. Enforcement is an issue. There is no reason to take the chance, especially if children are in the building.
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Old 09-24-2014, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Its still lower than the US average of 18% - down from 42% in 1965 - and is "still 25 percent lower than it was in 2002."
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Old 09-24-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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It's basic psychology- the more big government tells people not to do something the more likely they are to do it (see: prohibition).
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