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Originally Posted by lycos679
Everyone does have access -- to healthcare and insurance. Previously, we all had access to healthcare, but not insurance since you could be denied or dropped. Affordability is another issue. You aren't alone in the coverage gap though. Almost none of the southern states expanded coverage and they have the lowest incomes.
Actually, the point I made was, not every one has health care insurance and there's a Federal law that says we must. Just like there is a Federal Law that says every citizen must pay taxes, whether there is a state tax or not, where you live.
The only thing that changed between then and now, is a law.
Every one has always had access to, health care and health insurance. Not every one can obtain it, but they have always had access to it.
ACA seriously reduced the availability of catastrophic plans because they dont meet "minimum" standards..
That wasn't the question.
The OP wants us to believe that the Swiss have rejected "Obamacare."
As evidence, s/he believes this to be true because they offer catastrophic plans.
I want to know how s/he came to that conclusion and whether or not these plans are offered outside of government regulation or if they qualify as plans sanctioned by the government.
If they are sanctioned by the government, then they are part of the mandate and this is yet another misreading of what the Swiss have voted for.
So...
Are they regulated by the Swiss government?
Do they have to meet minimum standards in order to be offered?
What are those standards?
This is why the Tea Party-conservatives-Republicans have absolutely no clue what Obummercare is.
Neither did the D-party who passed that trojan horse legislation. Not one of the D-party legislators could be conversant about the details of obamacare and yet they irresposibly approved it. Senators from LA and NE were bought by the D-party just as lobbyists and unions buy D-party favor. Senator Obama said of HRC that she would pass healthcare legislation by nuclear option, something he would never do because his credibility as a leader would be destroyed.
In fact years after the D-party passed it, many D-legislators have expressed surprise at its requirements.
It is clear the PPACA has very little to do with healthcare.
The repubs know exactly what obamacare is, it is the dems who need schooling to keep from being surprised.
"Our health system is among the top performers in the world. Competition between health insurers and freedom of choice for clients play a major role in this,"
"Supporters of the status quo argue that higher premiums are inevitable given an ageing population and costly cutting-edge medical care, and say shifting to a public system would generate few savings."
The Swiss are not exactly Tea Party activists and even they can see the incredible stupidity of Obamacare.
Well, the Swiss clearly do not have the very, very, very smart bureaucratic masterminds that we enjoy here in the US.
We in the US have come to understand that we need these bureaucrats to stand between us and our doctors. The ignorant Swiss still believe a doctor knows better then a bureaucrat whether his 12 year old patient should get a lung transplant or not.
The ignorant people might think that their costs are rising and the quality and freedom of choice are deteriorating, but we in the US are smart enough to know, that all we need to do is ask a bureaucrat, and they will tells us the exact opposite.
Bottom line is this, bureaucrats no better than the people, what is best for them, even if the people are to freaking ignorant to understand it for themselves.
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