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Old 10-01-2014, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Obamacare has been delayed, again, till next year. Democrats didn't want to run for re election right after Obamacare was implemented. I wonder why that could be? Probably because Obamacare is so awesome and everyone loves it and thinks it is the greatest law passed in the last 100 years that it would be an unfair advantage for democrats, so they postponed it until after the election to give republicans a sporting chance.
It looks like ACA is pretty much running to me, might not be in full effect, but it is definitely running. And yet we still see no massive layoffs that the fear mongering Republicans threatened would happen.
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:14 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Well that is how insurance works, it covers a general amount of things, not just what you think you need and don't need.

Think of it like cable, you might only watch a few channels, but you are still gonna have to pay for the whole package.
You used to be able to pick a plan with the level of coverage you desire, no longer the case.

Even with cable you don't have to get every channel, you buy the package you want. Obamacare got rid of the basic cable, forcing people to buy channels they don't want.
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:15 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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It looks like ACA is pretty much running to me, might not be in full effect, but it is definitely running. And yet we still see no massive layoffs that the fear mongering Republicans threatened would happen.
ACA. I'll pay for that when someone that wanted to force me to buy it pays for me. I will be sure to not have enough "income" to afford it.
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:16 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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It looks like ACA is pretty much running to me, might not be in full effect, but it is definitely running. And yet we still see no massive layoffs that the fear mongering Republicans threatened would happen.
The biggest part of Obamacare is not, maybe it is best to do a little research
How Obamacare's Employer Mandate Harms Low-Wage Workers - Forbes
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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We have about the same number of uninsured today that we had prior to Obamacare.

Tell me again why this law was so important that it HAD to be passed in secret, behind closed doors, against the will of the people, while shutting out the other party and bribing members of the party that passed it.
That is a false statement, unless you are considering it when we had a bubble economy and a low unemployment rate before the recession. That is because more people were employed with insurance from their employers. States have been seeing a sharp from of uninsured since ACA went into effect.

Arkansas, Kentucky Report Sharpest Drops in Uninsured Rate
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Thanks for the laugh, the "conservative alternative plan" would mean less Americans would have insurance, that is how it is cheaper. From what I can see this looks like a joke of a poll that basically lied to the people they called in order to get the numbers they wanted.

Let me know when the Republicans want to actually put together a plan that is better than Obamacare, not worse. They have only had 6 years to come up with such a plan.
The Republican "plan" is even more of a joke than this ridiculous "poll", these folks are the most gullible people on earth.
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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We don't need to propose a solution when there was no problem to solve. Obamacare is the equivalent of forcing people to buy alligator insurance.
The problem was the high number of uninsured we have in this country. ACA is designed to help fix that problem and is doing just that.
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You used to be able to pick a plan with the level of coverage you desire, no longer the case.

Even with cable you don't have to get every channel, you buy the package you want. Obamacare got rid of the basic cable, forcing people to buy channels they don't want.
You can do that, but there is this thing called a "minimum." You can't pick less than the minimum.

I see the cable reference went over your head. You have to buy the package, even the minimum package has channels you probably don't watch or need.
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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ACA. I'll pay for that when someone that wanted to force me to buy it pays for me. I will be sure to not have enough "income" to afford it.
So basically you will shoot yourself in the foot and stay poor for the rest of your life so you don't have to pay for insurance....you should never be a financial adviser.
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:30 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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You can do that, but there is this thing called a "minimum." You can't pick less than the minimum.

I see the cable reference went over your head. You have to buy the package, even the minimum package has channels you probably don't watch or need.
Many people liked the minimum 5 years ago. Obama and dems made sure that was no longer an option. Now they are in the mid tiers because the minimum is no longer available.

I see the cable analogy went over your head, you should probably read the posts before you comment about them.
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