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Old 10-04-2014, 07:11 AM
 
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And they lump climate change with global warming. One does not equal the other. The climate always changes. And they are lumping weather to AGW.

All this sounds like the warmers are getting desperate.

Scientists to

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Old 10-04-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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Are you illiterate?

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They are developing a new scientific model that will shrink to as little as three days the time it takes to establish or rule out a link to climate change, in large part by using highly accurate estimates of sea surface temperatures rather than waiting for the actual readings to be published – a process that can often take months.
This is about shutting up journalists who jump to premature conclusions in their headlines (in both camps) so we can all get a clearer picture of how AGW is affecting our planet.

It's great news.

And almost ALL scientists are 'warmers'... they only differ in how they think AGW affects the planet.
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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Are you illiterate?

This is about shutting up journalists who jump to premature conclusions in their headlines (in both camps) so we can all get a clearer picture of how AGW is affecting our planet.

It's great news.

And almost ALL scientists are 'warmers'... they only differ in how they think AGW affects the planet.
BTW, is this even a legitimate story? I do not see it anywhere else.

So regardless if the carefully controlled temperature monitoring stations all over the world do not indicate any global warming for almost 18 years now, these paid hacks will use anecdotal evidence of various weather events, and declare them climate change, caused by CO2?

In other words, if they see a heat wave, and don't know what caused it, they will just infer CO2 was the cause, and specifically CO2 produced by human activities, was the cause.

Swell, so anything beyond their current understanding of the planet, they will just assume it's "human-induced global warming ."
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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Are you illiterate?

This is about shutting up journalists who jump to premature conclusions in their headlines (in both camps) so we can all get a clearer picture of how AGW is affecting our planet.

It's great news.

And almost ALL scientists are 'warmers'... they only differ in how they think AGW affects the planet.
They are developing a new scientific model that will shrink to as little as three days the time it takes to establish or rule out a link to climate change, in large part by using highly accurate estimates of sea surface temperatures rather than waiting for the actual readings to be published – a process that can often take months.


Wow! So now they can make up data in three days rather than wait months for the true readings to come out! Three days of model running to determine whether or not climate change is happening. Will wonders never cease! Estimates versus real data? You people call this "science"?

PS "almost ALL scientists" are NOT warmers. Almost ALL "climate" so called scientists are. BIG difference.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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These people are getting beyond pathetic. I guess their "funding" must be drying up.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:25 AM
 
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Are you illiterate?



This is about shutting up journalists who jump to premature conclusions in their headlines (in both camps) so we can all get a clearer picture of how AGW is affecting our planet.

It's great news.

And almost ALL scientists are 'warmers'... they only differ in how they think AGW affects the planet.
Well, it's not affecting the climate so you can move on to the next cause. Since there are about a million times more "greenhouse gasses" if those even exist, that are naturally occurring than man creates.

God what a waste of time this entire thing is.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:27 AM
 
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Yep, it's pretty pathetic to actually try to understand how the climate works and aim for faster, more accurate results in their studies. They should just give up and admit that the hacks and oil companies are right about AGW.

I mean, the only source this liberal rag could find is this moron:

Dr Friederike Otto | Jesus College, University of Oxford

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Academic Background
Friederike is a physicist by training but gained a PhD in philosophy of science from the Free University Berlin. She was based at the Alfred-Wegener Institute of Polar and Marine Research in Potsdam during her Diploma Project (1 year) working on atmospheric dynamics in Global Circulation Models. While writing her PhD thesis in philosophy she worked as a research assistant at the Potsdam-Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) and came to Oxford as a Post-Doc working on the quantification of uncertainty in climate system modelling in Junew2011. Since January 2013 Friederike is a research fellow at the Environmental Change Institute working on the attribution of weather and climate events to external drivers of the climate system.
And this deluded crazy person:

Cullen | SOCCOM

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Dr. Heidi Cullen serves as Chief Climatologist for Climate Central — a non-profit science journalism organization headquartered in Princeton, NJ. She is a Visiting Lecturer at Princeton University and a Senior Research Fellow at the Wharton Risk Management and Decision Processes Center at the University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Cullen is the author of The Weather of the Future published by Harper Collins. Before joining Climate Central, where she reports on climate and energy issues, Dr. Cullen served as The Weather Channel’s first on-air climate expert and helped create Forecast Earth, a weekly television series focused on issues related to climate change and the environment. Prior to that Dr. Cullen worked as a research scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder, CO. She received the NOAA Climate & Global Change Fellowship and spent two years at Columbia University’s International Research Institute for Climate and Society working to apply long-range climate forecasts to the water resources sector in Brazil and Paraguay. She is a member of the American Geophysical Union, the American Meteorological Society and the Society of Environmental Journalists. Dr. Cullen also serves as a member of the NOAA Science Advisory Board. She received a Bachelor of Science degree in Industrial Engineering from Columbia University and went on to receive a Ph.D. in climatology and ocean-atmosphere dynamics at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University.
If these people actually knew anything, then they would have undergrads in economics and political science and would be spending all of their time posting on their blogs about how climatologists are all stupid unless they say that AGW isn't happening.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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Wow! So now they can make up data in three days rather than wait months for the true readings to come out! Three days of model running to determine whether or not climate change is happening. Will wonders never cease! Estimates versus real data? You people call this "science"?
WOW another right-wing conspiracy theory! You're right, improving science and technology is a total waste of time.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Warmer Scientists Desperate To Claim Wild Weather Reason For
Weather
What?
Weather is reason for weather?
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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odo seems very defensive and is quick to call anyone who doesn't agree with him stupid. Hmmmm.
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