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Old 10-05-2014, 02:38 PM
 
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Yes, yes, yes. NOW, let's talk about Conservatives (the old Democratic party) and Liberals (the old Republican party). And yeah, I do agree that the Conservatives have a shameful history of bigotry and racism. And it's one that lives on today. This forum is a great testament to that fact.
yes yes yes, the old "Democrats used to be racist", but now we arent, hile you support the passage of legislation after legislation designed to keep poor people poor and waaa everytime someone criticizes the president, with you guys responding with "but he's black" as if thats got a dam thing to do with any of it..

Left wingers are the most hateful, racist, pathetic bunch of morons I've ever seen in my entire life.. (and no, i'm not personally attacking you, just making a generalization like you did)
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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I never said they would "vote for slavery." I said
legally, at the time, it was.. What would shock you about judges ruling on the law?
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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Of course, if Scalia or Thomas were on the Court in 1857 - and if they were true to their (wackadoodle) philosophy of Constitution interpretation - they absolutely would have voted with the majority that black people could not be citizens of the United States.

I wasn't saying that today Scalia and Thomas would "vote for slavery" as pghquest is falsely accusing me of having said.
there we go with the "blacks"..

Again slaves were ALL colors, and the FIRST person to take slave ownership to court happened to be a slave owner who was BLACK..
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:43 PM
 
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No one said it was ever fought to end slavery. However, it would be stupid to believe that the South's reason for wanting secession had nothing to do with slavery, when slavery was mentioned in the Articles of Secession.
Of course it did. Cotton was King in the south. That was their economic livelihood. With the
use of the cotton gin and increased cotton production, it accelerated the need for
slaves because of the demand for cotton from Europe. The huge profits of a slave system
was hard to beat.

But the North does not get off the hook either. It was northern textile mills and transporters that played a major role in the growth of a slave economy of the cotton south.

That was probably the main reason Lincoln did not come out and say abolish slavery.
It benefited north and south during that time economically. Let's face it, politics is driven by
money....
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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Yup. ******* fascists at it again. Never oppose their view of history because automatically YOUR WRONG!

Actual quote that of course the OP left out.
That board member acknowledging the "great sacrifice" in NO WAY mitigates the total idiocy of her assertion that slavery was given up "voluntarily". In fact, she's contradicting herself. Unless, in stead of the " great sacrifice " she means is not 1,000,000 war dead, but those poor slave owners getting their "property" seized.

She has one of those "pretzel logic" brains that result from home schooling, a Southern "education", or listening to Limbaugh.

Utter, complete, insulting stupidity.

That moron is the best argument possible for KEEPING the AP lesson plans. Who wants their kids to grow up with THAT brain???
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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And the rapes are a figment of our imagination, huh?

Why is it that nearly EVERY African American has Caucasian genetics?
Blacks in the north have a higher percentage of European ancestry than Blacks in the south. Southern Blacks have the highest percentage of African ancestry. Now if rape of slaves had been common, then this would be reversed, since slavery lasted longer as an institution in the south. If you read historical documents from that era, you would see that sexual relations between masters and their slaves was widely looked down on. Rapes did happen;it was mostly by the hired White overseers. But the idea that most slave women were raped is a falsehood. It wasn't as widespread as many claim.

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Old 10-05-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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there we go with the "blacks"..

Again slaves were ALL colors, and the FIRST person to take slave ownership to court happened to be a slave owner who was BLACK..
Have you even read the Dred Scott decision? In that case, the Supreme Court ruled that "negros" were not - and could not ever be - citizens.

I apologize if me using the word "black" instead of "negro" offended you.
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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That is a bit disingenuous.

The fact is that the people responsible for slavery and Jim Crow were Democrats.
Oh my fuggin God... You don't know that the Democrats were the CONSERVATIVE party in 1860???
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Of course it did. Cotton was King in the south. That was their economic livelihood. With the
use of the cotton gin and increased cotton production, it accelerated the need for
slaves because of the demand for cotton from Europe. The huge profits of a slave system
was hard to beat.


But the North does not get off the hook either. It was northern textile mills and transporters that played a major role in the growth of a slave economy of the cotton south.

That was probably the main reason Lincoln did not come out and say abolish slavery.
It benefited north and south during that time economically. Let's face it, politics is driven by
money....
No the profits in the slave system was not cotton; it was slave breeding which many Southerners were against.

One big slave breeder was Ellison, a Black man himself. His story would turn your stomach.
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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Why? You don't think you could be a CONSERVATIVE and DEMOCRAT?



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That is a bit disingenuous.

The fact is that the people responsible for slavery and Jim Crow were Democrats.
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