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Old 10-12-2014, 10:09 PM
 
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The courts do NOT have complete control over laws and "the people" just as the President of the United States nor the Congress (both the Senate and the House of Representatives) of the US have absolute control. We do have a system of checks and balances when it concerns the three branches of government: the Executive, the Legislative, and the Judiciary.

If the "the people" - a majority of them that is - are so against marriage equality, let them pass an amendment to the US Constitution outlawing all marriages except the heterosexual kind.

Anyone who has been reading the releases put out by the National Organization of Marriage (NOM) can see that this is the only way same sex marriage can be stopped nationally.
There will be no amendment that allows the inequality of anyone. That is not what our country is about.

 
Old 10-12-2014, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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It's fun watching all these little heads exploding! Won't be long until all 50 states and territories have marriage equality.
 
Old 10-12-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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Gay marriage ban just struck down in Alaska - another domino falls.
The "many" do NOT have the right to suppress the rights of the "few".


Federal Judge Strikes Down Alaska Gay Marriage Ban - ABC News

Ken
If you aren't gay, then why do you(and other straights) feel so strongly about it? I can understand if you were gay or had a gay family member, but it has no affect on you if gay marriage was illegal(unless you are gay yourself).
 
Old 10-12-2014, 10:31 PM
 
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It doesn't matter. The game is over and the writing is on the wall. Same-sex marriage will be legal in all fifty states soon.



So they will find a church that will, then.
Not through the will of the people. Most of these states had a vote and the people spoke.

Gay activists make me not want to support it. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
 
Old 10-12-2014, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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If you aren't gay, then why do you(and other straights) feel so strongly about it? I can understand if you were gay or had a gay family member, but it has no affect on you if gay marriage was illegal(unless you are gay yourself).
Well you claim your not gay, so why do you feel so strongly about it? I can understand if you were gay or had a gay family member, but it has no affect on you if gay marriage was illegal(unless you are gay yourself).
 
Old 10-12-2014, 10:36 PM
 
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If you aren't gay, then why do you(and other straights) feel so strongly about it? I can understand if you were gay or had a gay family member, but it has no affect on you if gay marriage was illegal(unless you are gay yourself).
What? I'll admit I ind social issues like gay marriage to be less important all things considered, but just because I have no actual affiliation with the LGBT community doesn't mean I shouldn't care about them.

I mean seriously, you care about what happens to the poor and blacks right? Just because I'm not one of those groups doesn't mean I can't support increasing their civil rights.
 
Old 10-12-2014, 10:36 PM
 
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Empathy? Compassion for fellow human beings? Putting myself in their place to imagine how they feel in their situation? I can't believe I am having to explain these things to one who is ostensibly an adult.
They can essentially do whatever they want with each other, even without marriage. Its not illegal to be gay. There are countries where you are put in prison for any homosexual activity. They can still remain lifelong partners. I know straight people who have been together but never married and they are still happy.
 
Old 10-12-2014, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Wilsonville, OR
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Not through the will of the people. Most of these states had a vote and the people spoke.
What does the will of the people even have to do with it? The supreme court has ruled multiple times that marriage is a fundamental right; the will of the people has no place in this matter.

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Gay activists make me not want to support it. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
No. It is up to you to decide why you are so bothered and do something about it. There is no rational reason not to be in support.
 
Old 10-12-2014, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Wilsonville, OR
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They can essentially do whatever they want with each other, even without marriage. Its not illegal to be gay. There are countries where you are put in prison for any homosexual activity. They can still remain lifelong partners. I know straight people who have been together but never married and they are still happy.
But then they would not receive any state or federal benefits for marrying, which can be extremely important.
 
Old 10-12-2014, 10:50 PM
 
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They can essentially do whatever they want with each other, even without marriage. Its not illegal to be gay. There are countries where you are put in prison for any homosexual activity. They can still remain lifelong partners. I know straight people who have been together but never married and they are still happy.
It was illegal to be gay in several states only until recently.

Marriage, by the way, entitles a spouse to inheritance, hospital rights, tax benefits, and several other issues that aren't nothing.
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