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Old 10-07-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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You just can't do it can you? Complain about the rich but you just can't condemn the reasons because of who is in power while it's being done.

Yeah.
The bots actually believed that the "truly rich" would allow government to hurt them. Now what planet are these bots from to believe that. That's the height of naivety. Oh and here comes the defense... "Buffett" when Buffett is making a killing from the Obama presidency.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Yep, shifting the cost from the rich to the poor. But Obama told em it was good for the people and they believed every word. Probably the same people who believed the banks. Thanks Bots!
Like any other administration or party would be doing anything about it either. Be serious. At least they do have Obamacare with subsidies or Medicaid in more enlightened states to fall back on. Some of these people likely have chronic diseases and would be out in the cold completely without that.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If I sell a widget for $10 and you add a $1 tax, I'm now going to sell that widget for $11.

Corporate taxes are passed on to the consumer. Raising taxes on corporations, for all practical purposes, raising the cost of goods to you. You pay those corporate taxes.
And rather than raising their prices Walmart decided to cut their costs.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:32 PM
 
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Like any other administration or party would be doing anything about it either. Be serious. At least they do have Obamacare with subsidies or Medicaid in more enlightened states to fall back on.
Yep nothing like promoting leech hood. Living off the tax payer, now Walmarts (the rich) get to unload onto the tax payer.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:33 PM
 
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Why is everyone so shocked that there are some losers in the rollout of Obamacare?

You cannot make such major changes and not have someone getting screwed either directly or indirectly due to reactions to the law.

There is a reason that rollout was dealyed for ages...to avoid a degree of voter backlash either justified or confused because it wound up being a whole lot less "free" than they thought it would.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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Walmart and other companies have just shifted the cost of health care from their books to those of the taxpayer. People kicked off with go on Medicaid or on "free" care in the ER. The fix to this is, of course, universal tax supported health care where employers (business) will be required to pay a percentage of the costs.
Instead, Obama went the safe corporate route....and bailed out wallstreet too. Suckers.

But hey, don't worry....if you vote for Hillary "NAFTA" Clinton she'll make it all better.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yep nothing like promoting leech hood. Living off the tax payer, now Walmarts (the rich) get to unload onto the tax payer.
Walmart isn't the only one to have done this. Most of the big chains have done the very same thing.
29 hours is the magic number.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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Why is everyone so shocked that there are some losers in the rollout of Obamacare?

You cannot make such major changes and not have someone getting screwed either directly or indirectly due to reactions to the law.

There is a reason that rollout was dealyed for ages...to avoid a degree of voter backlash either justified or confused because it wound up being a whole lot less "free" than they thought it would.
The problem is, those who rejected the voices who warned them thought can't connect the dots. Did you notice they are blaming Walmart, not Obamacare. LOL, they still don't get it. Wait until after the elections, they'll get a real wakeup call.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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And rather than raising their prices Walmart decided to cut their costs.
It may just be a partial offset.

Walmart is still paying for health insurance coverage for thousands of workers. If their costs, like most other companies, have increased due to ACA, the money saved through this cut might be going towards increased costs for the insurance of the full time employees.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:39 PM
 
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It may just be a partial offset.

Walmart is still paying for health insurance coverage for thousands of workers. If their costs, like most other companies, have increased due to ACA, the money saved through this cut might be going towards increased costs for the insurance of the full time employees.
Good point.. true, true. Got to love this BIG $2500.00 reduction in health care insurance <sarcasm>
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