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Old 10-11-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Why are Republicans wasting valuable time that could be spent on bringing in jobs, increasing take home pay, taking care of the debt, fixing healthcare, etc on things like gay marriage, drugs, etc. You actually would think being the party of 'personal freedom' that they would advocate a live and let live policy. In fact, turning around on some of these social policies would be great economically for America. Think about it, the added revenue from gay weddings, drastically less spending on prisons for drug users, etc. Are they just not content unless they're exerting control over people's personal lives? Is this why they generally like to keep the war machine involved globally? Do they like to try and personally influence the rest of the world? I'm glad to see that the courts are helping turn the tides, as despite what people try to say, it's not a right for people to vote against the rights of others, but why do Republicans want to be the oppressors and why do they think it's a good political tactic?
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Old 10-11-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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I was just thinking the same thing about Democrats. They waste time on social issues while domestic and foreign policy goes to pot. Besides most are temporary presidential orders ;not law. Obviously the American people got tired after first two years seeing election results both mid terms. This time they could lose the senate; Not very good results. Even many Democrats are really jumping on his foreign policy mistakes that could as one stated extend the war on terrorist to 30 years easily.
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Old 10-11-2014, 12:47 PM
 
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Why are Republicans wasting valuable time that could be spent on bringing in jobs, increasing take home pay, taking care of the debt, fixing healthcare, etc on things like gay marriage, drugs, etc. You actually would think being the party of 'personal freedom' that they would advocate a live and let live policy. In fact, turning around on some of these social policies would be great economically for America. Think about it, the added revenue from gay weddings, drastically less spending on prisons for drug users, etc. Are they just not content unless they're exerting control over people's personal lives? Is this why they generally like to keep the war machine involved globally? Do they like to try and personally influence the rest of the world? I'm glad to see that the courts are helping turn the tides, as despite what people try to say, it's not a right for people to vote against the rights of others, but why do Republicans want to be the oppressors and why do they think it's a good political tactic?
Does all that mean that you also think the Democrats should stop "wasting valuable time" on social policies like gay marriage, abortion, drugs, gun control and a health law that polls have consistently shown that the American people don't want?

There are a couple of threads in the Election forum about the Denver Post Editorial Endorcement for the US Senate. They use exactly your idea about "social policies" to endorse the Republican candidate over Senator Mark Udall (D). Oddly enough - the Denver Post is a well know Left leaning publication.

Rather than run on his record, Udall's campaign has devoted a shocking amount of energy and money trying to convince voters that Gardner seeks to outlaw birth control despite the congressman's call for over-the-counter sales of contraceptives. Udall is trying to frighten voters rather than inspire them with a hopeful vision. His obnoxious one-issue campaign is an insult to those he seeks to convince.

And then there is Texas - Wendy Davis is the Democratic Candidate that shot to Liberal Stardom on her Pro Abortion (late term abortion) platform. It's not going so well for her either. I totally agree with you that these Left & Right winger Social Issue platforms do not serve the voters -- but let's not pretend that it's ALL about the Republicans. Democrats are well known for this type of campaign.
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Old 10-11-2014, 12:53 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I was just thinking the same thing about Democrats. They waste time on social issues while domestic and foreign policy goes to pot. Besides most are temporary presidential orders ;not law. Obviously the American people got tired after first two years seeing election results both mid terms. This time they could lose the senate; Not very good results. Even many Democrats are really jumping on his foreign policy mistakes that could as one stated extend the war on terrorist to 30 years easily.
What Foreign policy mistakes ?

DId you want us to go to War with Assad, tell me how that would have stopped ISIS ? ( More than likely, it would have given them free reign over Syria and the problem would be worse).
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Old 10-11-2014, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Why are Republicans wasting valuable time that could be spent on bringing in jobs, increasing take home pay, taking care of the debt, fixing healthcare, etc on things like gay marriage, drugs, etc. You actually would think being the party of 'personal freedom' that they would advocate a live and let live policy. In fact, turning around on some of these social policies would be great economically for America. Think about it, the added revenue from gay weddings, drastically less spending on prisons for drug users, etc. Are they just not content unless they're exerting control over people's personal lives? Is this why they generally like to keep the war machine involved globally? Do they like to try and personally influence the rest of the world? I'm glad to see that the courts are helping turn the tides, as despite what people try to say, it's not a right for people to vote against the rights of others, but why do Republicans want to be the oppressors and why do they think it's a good political tactic?
There are still many Americans, most of all in the Red States, who pretty strongly feel the top issues of the day should be to be anti gay, anti abortion and anti drug. So Republicans in those states are going to be slow to abandon those people.
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Old 10-11-2014, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why are Republicans wasting valuable time that could be spent on bringing in jobs, increasing take home pay, taking care of the debt, fixing healthcare, etc on things like gay marriage, drugs, etc. You actually would think being the party of 'personal freedom' that they would advocate a live and let live policy. In fact, turning around on some of these social policies would be great economically for America. Think about it, the added revenue from gay weddings, drastically less spending on prisons for drug users, etc. Are they just not content unless they're exerting control over people's personal lives? Is this why they generally like to keep the war machine involved globally? Do they like to try and personally influence the rest of the world? I'm glad to see that the courts are helping turn the tides, as despite what people try to say, it's not a right for people to vote against the rights of others, but why do Republicans want to be the oppressors and why do they think it's a good political tactic?
Our prisons are run by private corporations for profit now. Not filling them up with minor drug offenders and black men under 30 would effect the bottom line.
Republicans don't like it when a corporate business's bottom line is affected by any government action.
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Old 10-11-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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There are still many Americans, most of all in the Red States, who pretty strongly feel the top issues of the day should be to be anti gay, anti abortion and anti drug. So Republicans in those states are going to be slow to abandon those people.
I think if the GOP can follow the more civil libertarian and pro-Main Street angle it's been taking further it would trounce the Democrat party in swing areas and even start to make inroads into Dem strongholds. .

The "mainstream" GOP is indeed harming itself to catering so heavily to social conservatives.
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Old 10-11-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Why are Republicans wasting valuable time that could be spent on bringing in jobs, increasing take home pay, taking care of the debt, fixing healthcare, etc on things like gay marriage, drugs, etc. You actually would think being the party of 'personal freedom' that they would advocate a live and let live policy. In fact, turning around on some of these social policies would be great economically for America. Think about it, the added revenue from gay weddings, drastically less spending on prisons for drug users, etc. Are they just not content unless they're exerting control over people's personal lives? Is this why they generally like to keep the war machine involved globally? Do they like to try and personally influence the rest of the world? I'm glad to see that the courts are helping turn the tides, as despite what people try to say, it's not a right for people to vote against the rights of others, but why do Republicans want to be the oppressors and why do they think it's a good political tactic?



A good liberal meltdown is needed on a regular basis on this site.

I especially love how ''Republicans want to be the oppressors and why do they think it's a good political tactic''. The PC police and radical community leaders are #1 oppressors in the nation.
I matters not what republicans ''think''; what liberals ''feel'' trumps all...enter PC. Eric Holder is a champion of PC.

The progressive left is historically oppressive - socialism/communism is the left. The two are rather oppressive. They seek totalitarian control. A truer term would be progressive oppression.

For the record...Republicans want nothing to do with socialism/communism.

Tell us again about how bad things are.
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Old 10-11-2014, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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I agree...."social" issues is NOT the place of Government!
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Old 10-11-2014, 02:04 PM
 
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There are still many Americans, most of all in the Red States, who pretty strongly feel the top issues of the day should be to be anti gay, anti abortion and anti drug. So Republicans in those states are going to be slow to abandon those people.



Could be when the push is on by Libs to be pro gay, pro abortion, pro gun control etc.. others may just want to say something about it.

Which came first?

Anyone that does not agree with the left ought to roll over & play dead?
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