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Old 10-14-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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You cannot possibly be this dense without collapsing into yourself and creating a black hole.
So instead of addressing the post you insult someone? You're a class act & clearly can't answer a simple question. I'm sorry.
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Old 10-14-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Not sure where you're going with this.

I'm critical of Iran and other Islamic culture, and I'm skewing white liberals who refuse to criticize any culture with a darker skin color, yet are more than happy to criticize any perceived gay rights offenses or any other hot topic issue back home.

Preaching gay rights on your minivan bumper sticker at the Whole Foods is preaching to the choir, they need to be sending this message to Iran and other cultures where they push people off buildings for being gay.
Not sure how rights & behavior of gays in THIS country, you know the one we live in, has anything to do with talking about traveling to another country. Again, that article is from 2007.
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Old 10-14-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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I'm still amazed we give PBS/NPR 400 million a year. They are totally Liberal and anti-Conservative/GOP.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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Are you serious? The commentator was making the point that to be gay and SAFE in Iran, not what the culture should be. In the U.S., there there are laws against violence toward someone based on perceived sexual orientation. Someone who is perceived to be gay in Mississippi shouldn't need to worry about other's perceptions of them. Iranian law prohibits homosexuality so, although the country may be less stringent in its prohibition against homosexuality than other middle east countries it shares it's borders with, NPR makes the point that a gay person still needs to exercise discretion. NPR is not suggesting that Iran's laws are correct - but it is a different country so whereas we have certain expectations of law in the U.S., we have no control over other country's laws on this issue.
Words/phrases NPR used to describe Iran on Gay-Jewish-American tourists: "Tolerant" "You'd be alright there (being a Gay-Jewish-American)" "Just respect Iranian Culture on the outside"

Words/phrases NPR used to describe a Mississippi town on not wanting a gay bar: "bigoted" "intolerance" "civil rights violation"


There is certainly a double standard.

We must not only tolerate Iranian bigotry, we use the word "tolerance" to describe their intolerance. NPR uses the phrase "respect Iranian culture on the outside, and they will tolerate you (being gay)" NPR is Orwell's 1984 all over again.

NPR has no problem calling Mississippi bigoted towards gays, but they engage in Orwellian Newspeak to protect Iranians from exposing their FAR WORSE bigotry.

Is NPR doing this, because a liberal they hold whites to a higher standard? Is that racist? Does it promote homophobia to describe intolerance towards gays as "tolerance" and so forth?
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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Is NPR doing this, because a liberal they hold whites to a higher standard?
Well, let's see. To test your hypothesis, you might ask yourself whether liberals denounce homophobia from black Americans. Rightwingwatch routinely covers outrageous statements from Alan Keyes, E.W. Jackson, and other luminaries, so it can't be that.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:25 PM
 
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This why I find conservatives so boring, silly, and dishonest.


First conservatives don't give one bit about gay rights.


Secondly, they don't give one bit about Iran or Iranian society.

All these kinds of conservative phony persecution stories are about conservatives wanting their bigotry excused.

Still standing on prejudice hatred and ignorance.

Also to bring up the thoroughly phony narrative, that liberals are mean to white people and afraid of non white people, with zero evidence to back those claims up.
#1 I have been a supporter of gay marriage since the 1990s - long before Hillary and Obama.

#2 You are dodging the facts, because you aren't brave enough or equipped properly to confront them in an honest manner....so you divert. Get some courage.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:30 PM
 
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Well, let's see. To test your hypothesis, you might ask yourself whether liberals denounce homophobia from black Americans. Rightwingwatch routinely covers outrageous statements from Alan Keyes, E.W. Jackson, and other luminaries, so it can't be that.
Okay, so are those conservative blacks? Mississippi is white majority - they are being held to a higher standard than Iran.

What is your hypothesis for liberals like NPR describing Mississippi as "bigoted" towards gays and an even worse less tolerant Iran as "tolerant" towards gays?

Do you think NPR promotes bigotry against gays by calling Iran's intolerance towards gays "tolerance" and not questioning it?
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Old 10-15-2014, 03:38 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Okay, so are those conservative blacks? Mississippi is white majority - they are being held to a higher standard than Iran.
Mississippi is also the state with the highest percentage of blacks, 37%.

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What is your hypothesis for liberals like NPR describing Mississippi as "bigoted" towards gays and an even worse less tolerant Iran as "tolerant" towards gays?
My hypothesis is that NPR is not an organization with an ability to influence opinion in Iran to any appreciable degree, and recognizes it.
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:14 AM
 
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Mississippi is also the state with the highest percentage of blacks, 37%.



My hypothesis is that NPR is not an organization with an ability to influence opinion in Iran to any appreciable degree, and recognizes it.
So lie and make excuses for their bigotry since Iran has few NPR listeners and be truthful for Mississippi as they have more listeners? Does this double standard endorse bigotry?

You think these liberals would be more likely to tell the truth with Iran, as they have less listeners in Iran and the problem is worse in Iran.


Why should NPR liberals use Orwellian Newspeak.

Intolerance is "tolerance".

Showing tolerance to gays is being fine with gays as long as they hide that they are gay.
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:53 AM
 
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So instead of addressing the post you insult someone? You're a class act & clearly can't answer a simple question. I'm sorry.
Your wholly strawman gibbering about "wanting this country to be run like a theocracy" cannot be taken seriously.
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