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conservatives just can't deal with reality. From my reading I think the city lawyers are wrong andover reaching.
But their over reaching has nothing to do with the conservative fiction/lying that they are trying to ban any speech.
I think that based on the legal battle that is ongoing over this ordinance banning discrimination against homosexuals, that calling for sermons to see if some of the opponents many of whom are preachers used their church pulpit for political purposes which is against the law, is over reaching, but these subpoenas have nothing to do with this conservative fiction about the subpoenas.
I don't care about this issue, and yet all I did was read neutral sources to get to reality and it always differs from conservative fictional make believe lies.
conservatives exist in a fantasy world, where even if you agree with them, you can't agree with them because they are so delusional and or dishonest.
There is nothing in the Constitution that stops a pastor from speaking on political issues. There are no court rulings that do that.
Looks like some reasonable people have chimed in already but please, fellow conservatives, please stop the hysterical persecution complex here. The city isn't a random demand by the city to crack down on "hate speech," it's a legal strategy to keep their LGBT ordinance from being submitted to a public vote in a lawsuit in which these churches' activities/sermons is potentially relevant to their defense. That's it.
Is the Houston mayor a bully? Maybe. Do I think the ordinance is stupid? Yes. Is the discovery request overly broad? Perhaps (the judge will decide). Is this a targeted persecution to limit free speech and liberty? No!
You contradict yourself. Why is everyone claiming they had no prior knowledge of the requests?
Wow 18pages in this thread and a conservtvative has no idea the basic reality of the case.
This conservative thinks the city is trying to win a legal battle over the legality of thrown out signatures on the basis of the pastors being anti homosexual bigots. Smh makes no logical sense.
I support gay marriage. I support the legalization of pot. I am anti-death penalty. I am about as anti-war as anyone here. I have argued more than anyone for the prosecution of the corrupt bankers. That makes me a "conservative"?
IMO your only desire is not to discuss the issue but to take pot shots at some vague group of people you for don't care for. (I've pointed this out before)
There is nothing in the Constitution that stops a pastor from speaking on political issues. There are no court rulings that do that.
There's nothing in the Constitution saying they must be tax exempt either. That is a quid pro quo, subject to reasonable regulation.
On the face of it, this subpoena seems over the top, but that doesn't mean there are not some cases in which the political activity of churches could legitimately be scrutinized.
There's nothing in the Constitution saying they must be tax exempt either. That is a quid pro quo, subject to reasonable regulation.
Actually it does. The courts have ruled on this many times.
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On the face of it, this subpoena seems over the top, but that doesn't mean there are not some cases in which the political activity of churches could legitimately be scrutinized.
Of course there are. The courts have ruled many times on that also.
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