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Old 10-16-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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lol what a horrible speaker
We see right now that style is meaningless.
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Will the left now apologize to Bush...I doubt it...I'm curious how long did the NYT sit on this story..

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...pons.html?_r=0

FROM THE ARTICLE

"All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them.

In case after case, participants said, analysis of these warheads and shells reaffirmed intelligence failures. First, the American government did not find what it had been looking for at the war’s outset, then it failed to prepare its troops and medical corps for the aged weapons it did find."
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:43 AM
 
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Nope. Not one single quote of that from either of them turns up in a search.

It's a figment of your imagination. I suppose it helps you maintain the delusion.
Ignorant and smug...

Rice:

Condoleezza Rice: 'Don't Want Smoking Gun To Be A Mushroom Cloud.' | Crooks and Liars

Bush:

CNN.com - Bush: Don't wait for mushroom cloud - Oct. 6, 2002
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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Specifically, no. However, that and many other actions are INCLUDED in the bill under section 4(a)(2): The President is authorized to direct the drawdown of defense articles from the stocks of the Department of Defense, defense services of the Department of Defense, and military education and training for such organizations.
No, it bloody well isn't. That describes arming, educating and training Iraqi organizations, and nothing else. Section 8 makes it very, very clear that nothing else is allowed.

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Did the cost exceed the $97 million limit? Yes.
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That's where the vote of approval for the action in Congress comes into play.
That was an entirely different piece of legislation, you very ignorant person.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No "over our cities?" Hmmm... Looks like you're imagining things, yet again.

Clinton, the originator of "Iraq's nuclear, chemical, and biological WMDs":


President Clinton orders attack on Iraq - YouTube
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:52 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No, it bloody well isn't. That describes arming, educating and training Iraqi organizations, and nothing else. Section 8 makes it very, very clear that nothing else is allowed.
No, it does not. Again, you have to COMPREHEND the language to understand what it legally permits:

Section 4(a)(2): The President is authorized to direct the drawdown of defense articles from the stocks of the Department of Defense, defense services of the Department of Defense, and military education and training for such organizations.

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That was an entirely different piece of legislation, you very ignorant person.
Ignorant? No. What that legislation did was open the door to additional funding for CONGRESSIONALLY approved military action.

Why do you keep deluding yourself? Too emotionally involved in your position to comprehend actual facts?
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:53 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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All in all though, was removing Saddam from power all that bright of a decision in the end?
Can you explain why it wasn't?
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Gotta love it when people can't just admit the party they follow ****ed up and try to spin it back on you. Regardless of what Clinton did, he wasn't involved in taking Saddam out of power. We had nothing to do with Egypt and Syria, so I don't know why you are mentioning those. As for Libya, you are correct. It was boneheaded to get involved when at the end of the day Gaddafi was effective.
"Nothing to do with Egypt and Syria?" Barack Obama was chief cheerleader for the Muslim Brotherhood , a terrorist organization, and their primary enabler. He orchestrated the removal of Mubarak, who had kept the peace for 30 years, and was generally friendly to the U.S.
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:04 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Indeed, he was. Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act into law, specifically calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime.
Oh, but see when he was actually removed from power, it was Bush that did it, so in her mind, Clinton is absolved.
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Bush's folly was not that he wanted to do something about a WMD armed regime in Iraq, but that his strategy made no allowance for the shtstorm of radical Islam that moved up to fill the void there once Saddam was taken out.
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