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Old 10-18-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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It's a good thing the dispensationalist evangelical beliefs weren't so common prior to the advent of modern medicine and disaster relief. We'd have signs of the second coming every other week what with the pandemics, earthquakes and hurricanes that would kill literally millions of people on a regular basis.

Either God is not nearly as wrathful as Mr. Hagee suggests, or he was really ticked at our ancestors.

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God's word said of Israel. It is written, Those that bless Israel will be blessed, those that curse Israel will be cursed.

Our president has taken the side of the Palestinians who do not want to live peacefully with the Jew . The Palestinians are the aggressor. God clearly gave the land to the Jewish people and they want to live in peace.
In all fairness the evangelical interpretation of Revelations means that their support for Israel is based upon hoping for it's ultimate destruction and Jews being cast into the lake of fire with all of the other non-believers. So you'll have to forgive Israeli Jews for not really asking for your blessings.

 
Old 10-18-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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God will judge that .. does every televangelist worship mammon? Some do and some don't.. God said go into all the world and preach the gospel. Some use the instrument of the television to reach people. Hagee believes in Jesus Christ as the savior of humanity. If he brings more people into the kingdom of God that is the hand of God working through man. If Hagee is in it for money , God will judge.

Now those who worship money and power will be judged. God sees the heart of man. Some use God for their benefit and some let God use them for God's benefit. This has been from the beginning. Evil is in all denominations and so it the good.
I agree..I came to that conclussion several years ago..I think a lot start out good,the money and their pride/vanity gets in the way..God can/will use anyone/anything at HIS choosing(used a talking Ass),but I think many of the "faces" of modern christianity may hear this.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...23&version=KJV
 
Old 10-18-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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Jerusalem has been LITERALLY divided since long before Obama was born. I would conclude the possibly Mr. Hagee is an idiot.
 
Old 10-18-2014, 11:10 AM
 
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It's a good thing the dispensationalist evangelical beliefs weren't so common prior to the advent of modern medicine and disaster relief. We'd have signs of the second coming every other week what with the pandemics, earthquakes and hurricanes that would kill literally millions of people on a regular basis.

Either God is not nearly as wrathful as Mr. Hagee suggests, or he was really ticked at our ancestors.



In all fairness the evangelical interpretation of Revelations means that their support for Israel is based upon hoping for it's ultimate destruction and Jews being cast into the lake of fire with all of the other non-believers. So you'll have to forgive Israeli Jews for not really asking for your blessings.


that is bull
no real Christian wishes that!!!
and if you want answers it is up to you to find them or not but in the end we will ALL be held accountable
everyone of us
 
Old 10-18-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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that is bull
no real Christian wishes that!!!
and if you want answers it is up to you to find them or not but in the end we will ALL be held accountable everyone of us
That's your opinion, not fact.
 
Old 10-18-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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that is bull
no real Christian wishes that!!!
and if you want answers it is up to you to find them or not but in the end we will ALL be held accountable
everyone of us
You're either not familiar with the end times theology embraced by Hagee and a lot of evangelical Protestants, or you haven't paid attention on Sunday mornings.
Evangelicals and End Time Theology, is good brief introduction into to these beliefs.


Dispinsationalism

And yes, all non-converted Jews being vanquished is part of the deal.
 
Old 10-18-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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It's a good thing the dispensationalist evangelical beliefs weren't so common prior to the advent of modern medicine and disaster relief. We'd have signs of the second coming every other week what with the pandemics, earthquakes and hurricanes that would kill literally millions of people on a regular basis.

Either God is not nearly as wrathful as Mr. Hagee suggests, or he was really ticked at our ancestors.



In all fairness the evangelical interpretation of Revelations means that their support for Israel is based upon hoping for it's ultimate destruction and Jews being cast into the lake of fire with all of the other non-believers. So you'll have to forgive Israeli Jews for not really asking for your blessings.
The Jews share the same God as the Christians. The Jews are the natural branches and the Gentiles , Christians were grafted into the same faith in the same God.
 
Old 10-18-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Hagee is a political activist, and mixes partisan political opinion into every sermon. It is a shame, because I think he is a gifted pastor, as is his son. As a Christian I reject attempts to use Christ as a political tool. This Ebola statement is one of the lamest Hagee he has said, and I think it's up there with Robertsons comments about Haiti. Why would God kill Africans because of something Obama has done, not to mention the fact that Obama has not divided Jerusalem, it has been divided for decades.
 
Old 10-18-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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Christians read the bible and see how God works. Let's add in the last days there will be pestilences.. which means widespread sickness or epidemics. These take place in the last days, these signs are written.. people go to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.

Earthquakes, famines, and a spirit of rejecting God's word , spreading the spirit of anti-Christ will prevail.

Good is bad and bad is good will also be a sign that God's judgement , which is letting the evil of the world, the bad which the people themselves create and worship will transmit into wars, civil unrest, racial tension . The evil of the world will grow as the spirit of God is rejected and man destroys themselves.
This God sure is one vindictive, evil dude.
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