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What does that have to do with the discussion we were having about Obamas claim that premiums would FALL $2500?
You keep jumping around, as if its hard for you to stay focused on the topic.. Usually thats a sign that you know he LIED..
Moreover, the pledge came with a large asterisk: He was not saying that premiums would drop by $2,500, but that health-care costs per family would be that much lower than anticipated.
He NEVER made that claim so just stop supporting lies moving the goal post.. Your responses are an example of exactly what im talking about.
lie, move the goal post and pretend its true
new goal post lie.. wait, lets pretend thats true
until the reality of what we said all along is what is taking place..
In the KFF data, the average premium for employer-based family coverage increased at an average annual rate of 7.9 percent from 2000 through 2010. The Affordable Care Act was passed in 2010, and so then the White House looks at the growth in premiums from 2010 through 2014. That growth rate has been just 5.2 percent.
The only reason the growth rate was slowed down is because the ECONOMY sucked.. Is that the Democratic plan that you support? Keep the economy in the toilet?
The funniest part is you actually linked to a source which says he LIED to validate its not a lie.. didnt you even read the link? haha
This is a difficult one to judge, but in the end we lean toward Two Pinocchios. The math adds up, but the results depend a lot on what window of time you use for comparison—and also how much you attribute the difference to the Affordable Care Act. President Obama at least should begin to explicitly acknowledge that there are other factors—and that the reasons for the slowdown are still not fully understood. If slower economic growth is a big part of the reason, that’s going to result in less growth in wages as well.
What does that have to do with the discussion we were having about Obamas claim that premiums would FALL $2500?
You keep jumping around, as if its hard for you to stay focused on the topic.. Usually thats a sign that you know he LIED..
Moreover, the pledge came with a large asterisk: He was not saying that premiums would drop by $2,500, but that health-care costs per family would be that much lower than anticipated.
He NEVER made that claim so just stop supporting lies moving the goal post.. Your responses are an example of exactly what im talking about.
lie, move the goal post and pretend its true
new goal post lie.. wait, lets pretend thats true
until the reality of what we said all along is what is taking place..
In the KFF data, the average premium for employer-based family coverage increased at an average annual rate of 7.9 percent from 2000 through 2010. The Affordable Care Act was passed in 2010, and so then the White House looks at the growth in premiums from 2010 through 2014. That growth rate has been just 5.2 percent.
The only reason the growth rate was slowed down is because the ECONOMY sucked.. Is that the Democratic plan that you support? Keep the economy in the toilet?
The funniest part is you actually linked to a source which says he LIED to validate its not a lie.. didnt you even read the link? haha
This is a difficult one to judge, but in the end we lean toward Two Pinocchios. The math adds up, but the results depend a lot on what window of time you use for comparison—and also how much you attribute the difference to the Affordable Care Act. President Obama at least should begin to explicitly acknowledge that there are other factors—and that the reasons for the slowdown are still not fully understood. If slower economic growth is a big part of the reason, that’s going to result in less growth in wages as well.
I can't help a lack of comprehension, but fear not, in 24 days you too can sign up for Obamacare.
I can't help a lack of comprehension, but fear not, in 24 days you too can sign up for Obamacare.
I agree, you cant help having a lack of comprehension.. Your own link called it a lie and you cite it as a source.. ooh this type of humor cant be bought..
Saturday Night Live should hire you just to listen to and have someone else to laugh at.
From YOUR link
the White House would not discuss either Obama’s 2008 pledge or the 2011 rewriting of that pledge, so we can only assume those are figures the White House prefers to forget
During the first three months of the year, according to the new data, the uninsured rate fell to 13.1%. That was a 1.3% drop from the first quarter of last year, reflecting a decline of 3.8 million uninsured in the country. Both numbers are the lowest on record since 1997, when the CDC began tallying the uninsured through this type of survey.
Is this really that hard to comprehend?! The rate of unisured FELL from the previous year. Hello!!!
A plan that requires a $4000K deductible BEFORE any "healhcare" is provided is NOT insurance. It is a catastophic event policy. People are staying sick because they can't afford to be seen by a doctor. You might go in for a routine exam which is "free", but the minute you ask about your sore arm, the appointment becomes an event that triggers your deductible and you are hit with a $1100 minimum bill.
Nice to see how concerned you are about the strength of the small businesses that employ 70% of Americans and the health of those employees. You're a true humanitarian.
I agree, you cant help having a lack of comprehension.. Your own link called it a lie and you cite it as a source.. ooh this type of humor cant be bought..
Saturday Night Live should hire you just to listen to and have someone else to laugh at.
From YOUR link
the White House would not discuss either Obama’s 2008 pledge or the 2011 rewriting of that pledge, so we can only assume those are figures the White House prefers to forget
hahaha.. yes, I bet they do...
Oh please. Obama never said or implied premiums would go down $2500. That would require a negative growth rate. What he said was that if the ACA was passed, the future premiums would be that much lower than the rate of growth would indicate. Whether or not the savings gets to be that much, we don't yet know, but the beginnings are promising.
At some point it will be cheaper to pay the fine and let the employees get their own insurance.
Just a matter of time.
Which will be another hit to the employee - one nobody is talking about. When companies drop insurance, they don't increase salaries to make up for it. So in reality, the employee is taking a pay cut, thanks to ObamaCare.
What he said was that if the ACA was passed, the future premiums would be that much lower than the rate of growth would indicate. Whether or not the savings gets to be that much, we don't yet know, but the beginnings are promising.
I wonder how many small businesses will just drop insurance next year because they can't afford it? The government wants to get the elections over of course before they drop the hammer.
At some point ... When we no longer have to pay for those that can't pay.
Since it has been a while I will mention my OPT-OUT plan; for those that say they don't want/need Health Insurance they can OPT-OUT of all plans by completing a form, what this does is exempts that person(their family) for having to have ANY Health Insurance plan, but what it also does is REQUIRE that person to pay IN FULL any expected charges when going to the Hospital or Doctor regardless of emergency before services are rendered, this payment must be in CASH, no checks, or credit cards allowed.
Still waiting for someone to post the rate increases in actual dollars not percentages and what the coverage differences are.
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