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Old 10-20-2014, 03:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
The point is not moot.

The burden of proof is on you. Prove to me the constitution is irrelevant and only citizens deemed "worthy" should be allowed to vote.
there is no burden of proof. it's simple. show an ID. just like when these people buy lottery tickets, cigarettes, and alcohol. ever heard the old saying "beggars can't be choosers?" why should parasites be able to choose how my money is spent? I am saying they can, just show an ID.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:12 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Great point. Blind faith in democrats has really been a disaster for the black community.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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there is no burden of proof. it's simple. show an ID. just like when these people buy lottery tickets, cigarettes, and alcohol. ever heard the old saying "beggars can't be choosers?" why should parasites be able to choose how my money is spent? I am saying they can, just show an ID.
You also need a photo ID for welfare etc...
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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Think about absurd talking points that you were fed before you post them.

There are plenty of constitutionally protected rights where you are required to have a photo ID to exercise them.

Buying guns, to run for president, to travel outside the nation, etc...
It is pretty explicit.

You need to have a damn good reason to disenfranchise millions of people over your imaginary voter fraud threat.

Even then.. you still haven't proven that a photo ID will prevent voter fraud. You also haven't proven that voter fraud is an issue. It occurs in 1 out of every 14.6 million votes.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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still waiting for 1 rational argument against ID.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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there is no burden of proof. it's simple. show an ID. just like when these people buy lottery tickets, cigarettes, and alcohol. ever heard the old saying "beggars can't be choosers?" why should parasites be able to choose how my money is spent? I am saying they can, just show an ID.
It's not required.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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still waiting for 1 rational argument against ID.
Funny, still waiting for one rational argument for photo ID voting and the wasteful government spending.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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there is no burden of proof. it's simple. show an ID. just like when these people buy lottery tickets, cigarettes, and alcohol. ever heard the old saying "beggars can't be choosers?" why should parasites be able to choose how my money is spent? I am saying they can, just show an ID.
I have never been asked to see my photo ID when buying lottery tickets. Heck, cigarettes and alcohol you will stop getting asked for your ID when you look old enough. I rarely get carded these days when I buy alcohol, and my father in law never gets asked for his ID when buying cigarettes.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:16 PM
 
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No, they didn't. They offered free ID's only at the DMV and restricted its ours. They also cut early voting and made absentee requirements more stringent.

Providing a free ID would be how my state does it; mailing my voter registration card to my residence, free of charge.

Want an ID? Mail it to every citizen.
PA did not restrict its hours for free IDs.

There were toll numbers for getting free lifts.

The poor already likely had an ID as they need it for food stamps, welfare, etc...

Democrats know that honest elections wouldn't be as helpful.

States that enacted photo IDs saw an increase in poor voters and minority voters...because it wasn't restricting honest voters and the Democrats fired them up with BS about them being disenfranchised.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:16 PM
 
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Then why not just support a National Photo ID that we all get at the age of 18 then have that ID be required for things that involve city, state, and federal things? That would solve any issue with photo IDs when it comes to voting, that would make it so everyone has a universal National ID.
I have my ID. I need it for lots of stuff. ID's are about $5. lots of states even give seniors free ID's.
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