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Old 10-23-2014, 06:16 AM
 
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since we have someone here suggesting that $10 a gallon in like Europe would be great - it would encourage people to dive less (lol)...

why not also tax the heck out of groceries, and raise them to the price point they are in Europe. Why would we want a higher standard of living, if we could just all take our expendable income and hand it to the Government? They know what's best for us


I really do not spend much each year for food, I either grow it at home or butcher it at home too. I mainly get spices and the like from the store and taxing food would not do much to me.
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Old 11-05-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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Here's the average household expenditure for food by country:

USA: 6.6%

UK: 9.1%
Germany: 10.9%
Sweden: 11.5%
Finland: 11.9%
Norway: 12.9%
France: 13.2%
Italy: 14.2%
Greece: 16.5%

Most of Europe spends about twice as much of their household income on food as compared to the Average American household.

Sorry, but that's nonsense. Such statistics are crap.

- Most Americans don't buy that much food at grocery stores, because most of them dining out several times a week, that's very uncommon in most european countries.

- The "disposal income" in the U.S. is higher than in most european countries, but they also have much higher spendings for child care, education, health care and so on.

Such statistics are nonsense, this statistic is probably the reaseon why so many Americans think that food is cheaper in the U.S. than in Europe.

The Aldi prices in Germany are the normal food prices in Germany. Every other major grocery chain offers at least the 500 most common food products for the exact same price than Aldi. Aldi is also the price leader in the U.S. but most other food retailers in the U.S. are more expensive than Aldi. As the Aldi prices in the U.S. are mostly considerably higher than at Aldi in Germany, it's clear that food is more expensive in the U.S. than in Germany.
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Old 11-05-2014, 10:16 AM
 
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We have cheap food because we are the producers; the bread basket to the world.




This is a byproduct of having cheap energy as well. If it costs less to produce, the free market will drive prices down.

WE should be pumping through the XL by now. THIS would have created jobs, and would help speed up our oil independence.

As you've seen recently, OPEC has begun trying to make oil so cheap that the US producers will be forced to stop drilling here. After all, it worked the last two times they did it.

This time is different, and anything over $50-60 per barrel is profitable. We could see $2.50 gas at the pumps again. However, let's be clear; this is in spite of Obama's regulations and stingy permitting, not because of it. In the scheme of things his attempt to drive prices up and keep us on the Saudi teet has been a colossal failure.

Are you really that stupid? The U.S. is the bread basket of the world? LOL Comparable tiny France and Germany combined produce more wheat than the much larger U.S.

Bread, flour and everything what is made out of flour is much cheaper in Germany than it is in the U.S. Even corn flakes are much cheaper in Germany than in the U.S.

Energy is cheap in the U.S., but why for example are trash bags in the U.S. 3 times more expensive than in Germany? Why are paper products (paper towels or toilet paper) 50% more expensive than in Germany?

Many Americans seems to be brainwashed regarding to the myth of low grocery prices in the U.S.
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Old 11-05-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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You are way off base. The cost of living in the UK is astronomical. It's toward the top of all countries and way way higher than the US.

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And food?

U.S. residents spent on average about $2,273, or about 6.4 percent of their annual consumer expenditures, on food in 2012, according to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA).

As a percentage of consumer expenditures, that is less than any of the 83 other countries for which the USDA tracks data.

The US Spends Less On Food Than Any Other Country In The World [MAPS]

That is what Americans spend in grocery stores for food, without the amount what they spend for fast food and other out of house food.

Every country have different definitions what is considered as food. Some countries also count daily necessities like cosmetics, detergent or paper products as food.

The "disposal income" in the U.S. is higher than in most other countries, but they also have to spend much more money for medical, child care, education and so on.

I really don't understand why most Americans believe that they have low food prices? That's just not true.
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