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Old 10-27-2014, 03:43 PM
 
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That was many years ago, and the African American community's opinion on gay marriage is coming more in line with the American norm today.

Polling Tracks Growing and Increasingly Diverse Support for the Freedom to Marry | Freedom to Marry

The only group to be opposed to gay marriage left in America are Republicans, a mostly white and older group of people.
My conservative Caribbean Democrat family would beg to differ with you. The Democrat Party is full of conflicting groups. A majority of minority groups within the party do not and have not ever agreed with gay marriage. Proposition 13 is a prime example. Mexicans are by and large highly Catholic and are against it. Blacks are majority Christian and are against it. Asians are also highly Catholic and Buddhist and against it, and middle-Easterners are highly Muslim and are against it.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:45 PM
 
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My conservative Caribbean Democrat family would beg to differ with you. The Democrat Party is full of conflicting groups. A majority of minority groups within the party do not and have not ever agreed with gay marriage. Proposition 13 is a prime example.
Oh really? Because the link I just shared showed that Hispanics are one of the most pro-marriage equality groups and African Americans also by majority now support it. Asian Americans are one of its biggest supporters as well yet these polls I posted don't record them. I posted facts. You are posting whatever is on your mind.

Edit: What does proposition 13 have anything to do with anything? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Califor...ition_13_(1978)
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Old 10-28-2014, 08:51 AM
 
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Liberalism is based more on emotion than conservatism, so it makes sense that liberals would end up being more dramatic regarding their emotional attachments with friends based on politics.

Take any issue, and examine the rhetoric:

Conservative - raising the minimum wage will result in inflation, higher unemployment among un/low skilled workers, and creates barriers to competition.

Liberal - You're just protecting your fat cat CEos and hate poor people!!

Conservative - we should simplify the tax code.

Liberal - You just want tax cuts for the rich and want to screw poor people!!

Conservative - women should pay for the own contraception

Liberal - War on women!!

Etc

This is not to say that conservatives do not have their emoptional arguments, like in foreign policy, where a bad guy in a desert 10,000 miles away is the signle greatest threat to America in all of history, until tomorrow, when someone else will be. But by and large, liberals tend towards the emotional over the logical more often, so it isn't all that surprising they'd be more apt to base friends or lack thereof on politics.
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Old 10-28-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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Political Polarization & Media Habits | Pew Research Center's Journalism Project

FTA:By contrast, those with consistently liberal views:
Are more likely than those in other ideological groups to block or “defriend†someone on a social network – as well as to end a personal friendship – because of politics.

One reason I don't talk politics with my liberal friends and coworkers.
Not surprising. The most intolerant people I know are liberals.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:05 AM
 
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Liberalism is based more on emotion than conservatism, so it makes sense that liberals would end up being more dramatic regarding their emotional attachments with friends based on politics.

Take any issue, and examine the rhetoric:

Conservative - raising the minimum wage will result in inflation, higher unemployment among un/low skilled workers, and creates barriers to competition.

Liberal - You're just protecting your fat cat CEos and hate poor people!!

Conservative - we should simplify the tax code.

Liberal - You just want tax cuts for the rich and want to screw poor people!!

Conservative - women should pay for the own contraception

Liberal - War on women!!

Etc

This is not to say that conservatives do not have their emoptional arguments, like in foreign policy, where a bad guy in a desert 10,000 miles away is the signle greatest threat to America in all of history, until tomorrow, when someone else will be. But by and large, liberals tend towards the emotional over the logical more often, so it isn't all that surprising they'd be more apt to base friends or lack thereof on politics.
Liberal: There's a preponderance of evidence that adjusting the tax code to have higher marginal rates improves overall economic growth and social satisfaction.

Conservative: Them black people be takin' mah' moneys!

QED
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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On City Data I find that liberals routinely report comments they disagree with, I strongly doubt conservatives are such cry babies and can't handle a discussion they are not winning

I personally have never reported a single person on City Data (except in retaliation after getting suspended)
(even though I have been called everything that one can ever imagine) and will not do so unless it's spam, or pornographic.

Furthermore I've been told I was blocked (so my posts were not seen) on other websites which is the pinnacle of closed mindedness


The reason for that is believe that free speech is important and liberals only are in favor of free speech if it's to the left of them (and pornography)

knowing this I would be shocked if this didn't carry over to Facebook or any other place where liberals are exposed to people who disagree with them.

Liberals are the most closed minded group on the face of the earth.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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Liberalism is based more on emotion than conservatism, so it makes sense that liberals would end up being more dramatic regarding their emotional attachments with friends based on politics.
Good point. Liberals "feel" more than they cogitate.

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Take any issue, and examine the rhetoric:

Conservative - raising the minimum wage will result in inflation, higher unemployment among un/low skilled workers, and creates barriers to competition.

Liberal - You're just protecting your fat cat CEos and hate poor people!!

Conservative - we should simplify the tax code.

Liberal - You just want tax cuts for the rich and want to screw poor people!!

Conservative - women should pay for the own contraception

Liberal - War on women!!

Etc

This is not to say that conservatives do not have their emoptional arguments, like in foreign policy, where a bad guy in a desert 10,000 miles away is the signle greatest threat to America in all of history, until tomorrow, when someone else will be. But by and large, liberals tend towards the emotional over the logical more often, so it isn't all that surprising they'd be more apt to base friends or lack thereof on politics.
Exactly.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:20 AM
 
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Liberal: There's a preponderance of evidence that adjusting the tax code to have higher marginal rates improves overall economic growth and social satisfaction.

Conservative: Them black people be takin' mah' moneys!

QED
Show me the conservative pundit or politician who argues the nonsense of higher marginal rates with a race based counter argument. Most of the time, the rebuttal is simply "uhm yeah, not true, check the Laffer Curve and Hausers Law for more on that. And the preponderance of evidence suggests that the marginal rates going higher actually inhibits economic growth at the cost of social satisfaction."

But if you have even one example of a conservative arguing that higher marginal rates are bad because of black people taking mah money, then link it up sport.

You do realize that you're proving my earlier point, right? When challenged, liberals typically resort to emotion. Your reply is of the standard liberal form "oh yeah, well conservatives are racist!" No proof, just the claim. Standard emotional response. Am I defriended?
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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Liberal: There's a preponderance of evidence that adjusting the tax code to have higher marginal rates improves overall economic growth and social satisfaction.
Um... NO. Even Obama's own former chief economic advisor, Christina Romer, knew better than that, and quit Obama's Admin to go back to reality.

Romer's research found that for every 1% increase in the tax rate, GDP declined by anywhere from 2.5-3%, and that "... stems in considerable part from a powerful negative effect of tax increases on investment."

http://emlab.berkeley.edu/~dromer/pa...ERJune2010.pdf
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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On City Data I find that liberals routinely report comments they disagree with, I strongly doubt conservatives are such cry babies and can't handle a discussion they are not winning

I personally have never reported a single person on City Data (except in retaliation after getting suspended)
(even though I have been called everything that one can ever imagine) and will not do so unless it's spam, or pornographic.

Furthermore I've been told I was blocked (so my posts were not seen) on other websites which is the pinnacle of closed mindedness


The reason for that is believe that free speech is important and liberals only are in favor of free speech if it's to the left of them (and pornography)

knowing this I would be shocked if this didn't carry over to Facebook or any other place where liberals are exposed to people who disagree with them.

Liberals are the most closed minded group on the face of the earth.
Check the terms of service on hardcore liberal forums like DemocraticUnderground and others. They tell you right in the ToS that disagreeing with the liberal/Democrat stance is not tolerated and will get you banned. You'll find a ton more examples of that in the liberal political forums than in any of the conservative or libertarian forums.

Emotional people tend to be more close minded to things that disagree with their worldview, and liberals are typically more emotional than conservatives. It's not really tough to understand for anyone believing their lying eyes.
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