Governor Defends Flying The Confederate Flag (speech, party, economy, Massachusetts)
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Actually, I used the phrase "Marxist fascists," which accurately describes the Democratic Party. As the despot in the White House continually demonstrates. You certainly could not construe anyone in the Democratic Party as being "liberal" or "progressive" like they pretend to be.
lol, you use the phrase so you can sound like a delusional 1950s John Bircher, mission accomplished!
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Originally Posted by Glitch
Marxist fascists want everything banned that does not agree 100% in lockstep with their particular point of view. Which is why your Messiah had veterans returning from a war he sent them to fight, branded as "potential terrorists" by the Department of Homeland Security. Marxist fascists cannot tolerate opposing viewpoints.
This thread is just another example. Once again demonstrating how Democrats are not "liberal" and/or "progressive" like they want other people to think.
Strike three, you're out.
You have invaded the thread with an off-topic, hyperbole filled garbage rant and then you have stubbornly (and stupidly) insisted upon defending it when called out.
If I'm a "Marxist fascist," you're an anti-semitic racist. I have exactly as much evidence to use that latter against you as you the former against me.
So stop being an anti-semitic racist and admit you were off-topic already, you're embarrassing yourself.
None of this refutes my point which was about the video guy's logic. You are attempting to distract from that logic.
You didn't make a point, unless flat out lies are considered a "point." Oh that's right, it's considered perfectly legit among right wing extremists to just make stuff up.
Also lies are not logic. You seem to have the two concepts confused.
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Originally Posted by SimplySagacious
Since you want to relate a 3rd grade history lesson, I'll expand a bit--- Most, maybe all, landowners did own slaves, even the small planters. Landowners had the power. Many other citizens had slaves too.
lol
You fail so hard, it's absolutely hilarious here. You don't know squat about history, so shut up already, you're embarrassing yourself.
Not all landowners in the South owned slaves, not even close. That was the point. Most large landowners definitely owned slaves. About 6% of the South's population were slave owners. The majority of that 6% owned one or two slaves. They were either slightly better-off farmers or town/city professionals with slaves as servants. That minority of a minority were the landowners with many slaves and lots of land. And despite their small numbers, they controlled all of politics in the South, holding nearly all the elected offices (in South Carolina and Virginia, the state constitutions were written to keep them in power). This tiny group of people, who controlled the South, decided themselves to secede from the Union and start a war with the legitimate government to protect their own narrow interests and were able to con hundreds of thousands of Southerners who had zero stake in the outcome (except having everything to lose) into joining their cause. So yes, the Confederacy sprung into existence to protect the interest of a slave-holding minority. The entire thing was their doing. And you counter with....
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Originally Posted by SimplySagacious
Slavery was practiced in all 13 colonies and continued under the American flag. The colonies could not become independent without the slave labor force so, yes, essentially America sprang up to protect the slaveholding landowners and 13 slaveholding colonies interests. I know that it is inconvenient to find that arguments against displaying the confederate flag also apply to the american flag.
Actually no. Most of the Northerners who were in the Continental Congress were not slaveholders. The Massachusetts delegation that first called for independence had 0 (zero) slaveholders. You've simply taken the fact that slavery happened to exist in those places, and it's not even comparable. Slavery was THE vital part of the South's plantation/cash crop economy, but it was economically inconsequential in the North, and by the time of the Revolution was on its way to extinction.
Your comparison of the US to the Confederate flag is the kind of joke only a dimwitted neo-Confederate racist would buy. They are not the same thing.
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Originally Posted by SimplySagacious
But, this thread is really about the hatred from the left for an Indian-American female governor who just happens to be a republican.
What this thread is about is the right wing extremists' absolute disdain for anyone that isn't a Southern White male. and when the far right party loses every other demographic but Southern White males in 2016, the far right party will actually have the nerve to express shock at what happened. But I'm glad we'll have threads like this one to point to.
PSSST!!! 2014 called, and wants you to join the rest of us Americans in the present, and stop living in the past. Slavery is dead, has been for many years, and the Civil Rights Movement made the Constitution whole ensuring that all Americans have equal rights. It is really simple..... If you don't like the flag don't look at it, or fly it. If you get offended over a piece of cloth, then you really should find a hobby or something.
This is irrational.
Flags by definition are symbols. They represent things. There is no doubt that not one state would fly the nazi flag based on it just being a piece of clothe.
The bottomline is that the confederate flag symbolizes treason against America, and represents fighting to ensure that the black citizens of that state stayed enslaved.
The dispicable reasoning behind any state that would want to negate its own citizens to stand with a symbol like the confederate flag says all one needs to know about conservatives.
Well that "piece of cloth" has meaning, just as much as the same cloth with 13 stars and 50 stripes. It's not so much the item, but what the item represents and why it exists that people hate.
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