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Old 10-23-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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She just had to pull that race card, didn't she. Pathetic.


Have to say though the fact that her or her sister don't have mates with their amount of wealth screams volumes about their supposed "beauty" you hear from people all over the place.
Don't have mates?

Serena has been in several high profile romances.

Venus is dating some Cuban model dude right now. She was with Hank Kuehne (a very well known golfer) for years before that.

SMH...you have a mouth. Quit using a rear body orifice.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:15 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The comments were tasteless but I don't think they were racist or even sexist. Remember Martina Navratilova?
When Navratilova was the women's tennis champion everyone and their mother was making fun of her for her masculine appearance.
You are parroting the definition of sexism and dont even know it.

Sexism- prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women or men, on the basis of sex.


Saying a women isnt feminine enough is sexism. Saying a man isnt masculine enough is sexism. Its placing stereotypes on a sex.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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It just bothers me to no end when someone plays 'the race card' without anything standing behind it.
If a comment that was made was racist, I'd go to bat against it in an instant.
But to just pull that card out and throw it down without any substance, just annoys the crap out of me.

The comment made was very much out of line, it was, in my humble opinion, far from racist.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:17 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Are you saying that you've never heard of blacks being referred to as "brothers"?
In Russia? The term in his context meant its literal meaning - meaning they look like men, of which it isn't so far fetched if you look at the guns on Serena. Also her facial structure looks JUST like her dad, Richard.

In America, that term is more loosely known to mean men of color and is used more informally.

Good grief the fact you even thought it was "racist" in the way you received it just goes to show you how far the cancer of PC has infiltrated this country.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Serena Williams Calls Comment From Top Tennis Official 'Extremely Sexist As Well As Racist'
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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You are parroting the definition of sexism and dont even know it.

Sexism- prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women or men, on the basis of sex.


Saying a women isnt feminine enough is sexism. Saying a man isnt masculine enough is sexism. Its placing stereotypes on a sex.
How is it sexist to say that a certain female might have a more masculine appearance than others? Or that a certain man has a more feminine appearance? We're talking about a certain individual here. It's not sexist unless you're referring to all women or all men. Nor is it racist unless you're referring to all black or all white people, etc.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:37 AM
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How is it sexist to say that a certain female might have a more masculine appearance than others?
Or that a certain man has a more feminine appearance? We're talking about a certain individual here. It's not sexist unless you're referring to all women or all men. Nor is it racist unless you're referring to all black or all white people, etc.


You really dont see what you just did.

its the default, "all men should be masculine" or "all women should be feminine".

So yes, by singling a person out, he did exactly what you defined as sexism and what the actual definition of sexism is.

im not sure if you are trolling or if you honestly didnt notice that huge flaw in your argument.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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You really dont see what you just did.

its the default, "all men should be masculine" or "all women should be feminine".

So yes, by singling a person out, he did exactly what you defined as sexism and what the actual definition of sexism is.

im not sure if you are trolling or if you honestly didnt notice that huge flaw in your argument.
So by simply pointing out that someone may be more masculine than most women makes one a sexist?

And are we now at the point where you cant say anything at all about a woman or black person without it being called sexist or racist if its at all not a flattering comment?
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:48 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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So by simply pointing out that someone may be more masculine than most women makes one a sexist?

And are we now at the point where you cant say anything at all about a woman or black person without it being called sexist or racist if its at all not a flattering comment?
We are discussing the definition of the word sexism, which includes stereotyping. You dont have to like it for it to be true.


dont shoot the messenger.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:50 AM
 
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In the proper world of tennis, the comments were quite tacky and the guy was fined and reprimanded which is appropriate IMO.

However, I fail to see how his comments were racist or sexist.

Calling someone "ugly" or "scary to look at" is rude but not sexist.

They've had the "all ugly team" on the NBA for a loooong time and I never thought they were being "sexist" to Gheorge Muresan and Sam Cassell.

Also, indicating that someone has a build that is more towards the masculine is not sexist, it's an accurate observation. Now if you were to say "women should not have masculine builds" then that is sexist but if you say that you don't find it attractive it's a personal opinion.

What, do we start calling women who state that they prefer tall men sexist? What if they say "he's kinda short" is that sexist?
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