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Old 10-25-2014, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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I agree, so I don't understand why the outrage or surprise when one of these thugs does something stupid like knocking their loved one out in public and dragging them around like a sack of potatoes. Or whipping a 4 year old child bloody and then calling it a part of their culture.

If they don't want stories like this, then choose better human beings for the league, stats and speed be damned. There are many, many really good football players out there that are good people and the league wouldn't suffer one bit from the lack of Percy Harvin or Ray Rice or Ray Lewis or Adrian Peterson or Mike Vick or about a 100 other guys. Just choose better people and play the game right.
The moral of the story is a bigger majority of guys do leave the hood and Football turns them into fine individuals. Players are selected on talent, and Universities and the NFL are always working on improving the culture.
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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What happened? Couldn't make the squad?
Why can't they be gifted athletes with a decent education, so when their career ends they will be prepared for the real world. When you have two NBA players pulling guns on each other, something is wrong with college/pro sports.
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Meh...so what.

What occupation is full of choirboys? Yours?

Come on...get real.
Funny, you very rarely if ever see Pro hockey players getting in trouble, punching their wife's or pulling guns on each other.
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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That's a silly comparison. Professional football is a highly specialized class of work. There is no existential doppelganger available for a good comparison.

There are roughly 1700 players in the NFL..

Go grab 1700 bankers or pediatricians that have spent most of their lives learning to knock other guy's heads off.

Football requires extreme aggression and toughness. You don't flip a switch and just turn it off just because the game clock expired. These are Alpha dogs. They don't turn into lambs when they aren't playing football.
Sorry, they get no pass to bring their violence home with them. Leave it on the field, where it belongs.
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:32 AM
 
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Only an idiot would know they were not cheating. If your boss tells you to fudge on your timesheet, you surely would know you are cheating.
They did not fudge anything, they did the work they were told to do. This is on the University.
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:42 AM
 
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Why can't they be gifted athletes with a decent education, so when their career ends they will be prepared for the real world. When you have two NBA players pulling guns on each other, something is wrong with college/pro sports.
People in other walks of life never pull guns on each other?
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:48 AM
 
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Funny, you very rarely if ever see Pro hockey players getting in trouble, punching their wife's or pulling guns on each other.
sarcasm right?
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Lol @ outrage over students cheating.

You guys get gobsmacked a bit too easily.
Twenty years of professors, coaches and students conspiring to make sure athletes pass is not a trifling matter. Especially at a school that holds itself out as a premier educational institution.

You trivialize the oddest things.

Some of these kids graduated, didn't go pro and can't earn a living. They've featured kids not being able to read.
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:59 AM
 
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Twenty years of professors, coaches and students conspiring to make sure athletes pass is not a trifling matter. Especially at a school that holds itself out as a premier educational institution.

You trivialize the oddest things.

Some of these kids graduated, didn't go pro and can't earn a living. They've featured kids not being able to read.
Yes, this is where the fraud comes in. The athlete gets his degree but gets injured and never makes the pro level (or just isn't good enough). The college is then sending them out with degree's they know are not up to standards that employers would expect.
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Old 10-25-2014, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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That's a silly comparison. Professional football is a highly specialized class of work. There is no existential doppelganger available for a good comparison.

There are roughly 1700 players in the NFL..

Go grab 1700 bankers or pediatricians that have spent most of their lives learning to knock other guy's heads off.

Football requires extreme aggression and toughness. You don't flip a switch and just turn it off just because the game clock expired. These are Alpha dogs. They don't turn into lambs when they aren't playing football.
One article I read stated that black NFL players have far lower rates of crime than black men in general in the same age range.

Don't think the article controlled for income so maybe they're more violent than Black men with higher incomes that don't play football.

I don't get trying to turn these guys into choir boys but it's the progressives that have feminized the culture, so not much we can do now. These guys better keep their hands to themselves or they will be out of the league.
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