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"Since it's White kids, this is really disturbing."
I thought the shooter was a Native American, from a nearby reservation. Lummi, IIRC.
Not that it really matters, ANY race or ethnicity can have nutcases. Anybody that starts shooting at people for little or no reason is definitely a nutcase, IMO
Oh, please. And they're quoting Harvard Research.
Good enough for ya?
What do you mean "oh please"....??? As if Mother Jones isn't a Liberal rag shilling for the Liberal cause? If I provided you an article from Breitbart, you'd take it seriously? Once a news organization takes a side, it fails to be a news organization and everything it publishes should be looked at with a skeptical glance, and Mother Jones has certainly taken a side on the gun control debate more than once......
Sorry but, no. They are using Mother Jones's study. Not only that but the Harvard study is relying on Mother Jones's numbers for their study......
Look, no matter which way you cut it, no matter who's numbers you use, the result is still the same; Mass shootings are a very rare statistical anomaly. They account for about 1/10th of 1% of all crime committed in the US. Hardly the epidemic that Mother Jones would have you believe.
Not only that, but the Poster you originally replied to and I, were discussing school shootings, not mass shootings, and there has been less than 10 occurrences of what we typically think of as a school shooting (active shooter randomly targeting people to kill) since Sandy Hook. A FAR cry from the 87 purported by Everytown For Gun Safety......
She isn't thinking that abstractly. She means it literally, that if he hadn't had access to a firearm that a shooting would not have occurred, and technically she is correct.
The question then is, how would any law prevent him from having access to a
gun?
The gun control proponents never think these things through very well. I was at a bus stop today and someone was smoking a joint. A lady walked within a foot of me to get away from the smell of bud and actually said to her friend "there ought to be a law against him smoking that, it is worse than cigarettes".
For the record, I am not in Washington or Colorado.
I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to some sort of safe storage law, depending on how it was written of course. Basically lets pass a law that says if a Minor get's hold of your firearm and uses it in an illegal manner, you'll face the same charges as the minor. That keeps it to where parents can still allow their kids to posses a firearm to teach them about gun safety, to hunt, to target shoot, etc, but incentivizes people to store firearms not under their immediate control, properly.
Yeah, but those laws are already on the books. The fact is that if someone is bent on committing a shooting, they can and will get a firearm illegally. That is why laws that infringe on the rights of law abiding citizens are ineffective(not to mention unconstitutional) because criminals by definition do not obey laws.
Perhaps so but a depressed fourteen year old boy likely isn't a mad man criminal bent on destruction, willing and able to descend in to the gutters of the inner city to get a gun so he can shoot his friends at school.
And I'm not aware of these laws you say are on the books. Maybe in certain places, but certainly not everywhere, and not a uniform standard. Toddlers who get their hands on guns improperly stored and end up killing themselves, the parents should be charged with manslaughter at the very least, maybe negligent homicide. Most of the time parents aren't charged when that happens. Kids who get their hands on an improperly stored gun so they can kill someone else, the owner of that gun should be charged with murder....
The problem with this idea is the Heller ruling, which ruled safe storage laws to be unconstitutional. That's why I say pass a law that doesn't deal with how a gun has to be stored. Leave the storage method up to the owner entirely, as it is now, they can even keep it on the kitchen table if they like, but the owner will have to face the consequences of their decision should the way they store their gun lead to a minor or prohibited person gaining access to it and using it maliciously.
...discussing school shootings, not mass shootings, and there has been less than 10 occurrences of what we typically think of as a school shooting (active shooter randomly targeting people to kill) since Sandy Hook. A FAR cry from the 87 purported by Everytown For Gun Safety......
All the hysteria over Ebola and it is nuts with guns that continue to rampage. The 2nd Amendment needs to go. How long are Americans going to tolerate their children being gunned down at school?
Well, then based on your "logic" we should also ban Islam (and axes).
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