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Yeah, conservatives never emote. Get real. Howling in terror over a virus that has killed one -- count, him, ONE -- person in this country (who was not a healthcare worker, BTW -- he was a truck driver) is a bit melodramatic.
Every plague/pandemic in the history of mankind started with a single death. This IS a worldwide pandemic. The question on the table is, how far will it spread in the US?
We're concerned because we're living in dangerous times and we've got a moron in the White House who has just appointed a lawyer/political hack to be the Ebola Tsar.
We're concerned because The Smart People™ are still arguing about how this virus spreads, and is this flu mutating and will it mutate again and will there be "just a few deaths" or will it be a "slate wiper"?
We're concerned because we don't know how far it will spread and how many lives it will disrupt and will it be the last straw on the incredibly weak back of this anemic economy?
It would only take a few dozen Ebola cases to pretty well decimate the United States economy. There are already stories of ER nurses not showing up for work in New York. What's going to happen when there are 20 cases at one hospital?
"Howling in terror" is an egregious characterization of the true facts and it's also an over-simplification. Let's see how pleased YOU are when you find out that the cafeteria worker in your son's elementary school collapsed and died from Ebola.
Because given this administration's irresponsible actions, that may be an event in our future.
I can't recall who said it, but it came at another time when the nation was etremely polarized:
"Most of us love our country, and want to defend it from its enemies, but we are in deep isagreement over who those enemies are."
At present, it might be added that we gon't always recognize that some of those threats don't have a personality, or an identifiable creed and leadership.
And furthermore, that the delicate safeguards which were built into our Constitution in order to protect our liberties, and to safeguard those with the courage to point out the corruption aren't taught in the way they were when i was a high-schooler.
I recognize, and understand, that the great societal forces of our time -- the further enancipation of women, the further weakening of racism (which has to come from within the conscience of the individual) and the greater diversity of our population have all worked to weaken the cohesion that made greater acceptance and preservaion of these safeguards a standard belief.
But one cannot spened a few minutes in front of CNN (or Fox, or MSNBC) and fail to recognize that some of the virtues that separate us from the collectivist disiese that killed at least a hundred million in the Twentieth Century is being undermined.
And that trend scares me to death .... far more than the disease or misfit du jour.
Last edited by 2nd trick op; 10-25-2014 at 02:57 PM..
I dont agree with the OP. If this turns into a crisis of any magnitude, common sense will prevail and I guarantee you that there will be more agreement than disagreement about what to do.
Generalizations are seldom true.
The goal is to prevent it from becoming a "crisis of magnitude", but leftie progressives have always looked for a crisis in order to pass their agenda.
Think "The new deal", "the great society" and "obamacare"......all of which greatly reduced American citizens freedoms and wallet sizes.
Conservatives act out of fear and emotion. Liberals seek out and listen to experts in the medical field - especially pathologists and epidemiologists - and then make considered, rational decisions.
NY and NJ have decided to quarantine returning health workers for 21 days. Somehow this decision falls cleanly along liberal/conservative lines. Why is that? Conservatives want it, liberals hate it.
It isn't a conservative or liberal issue, because NY's governor is a Democrat and NJ's is a Republican. Illinois, which also instituted a quarantine, is under a Democrat governor too.
Numerous Democrats have called for a travel ban, Kay Hagan comes to mind. It transcends both sides of the aisle.
However, our current President is not among the 77% - and he, uniquely, has the broad authority to institute a ban. But he refuses.
Why?
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Only a small but noisy minority of self-appointed "medical experts" on the TV, a few people on this board, and the President oppose a travel restriction.
They are ALL selling us out. Every single one of them on both sides of the aisle. Meanwhile, this crisis will be quietly solved by science now that there is some profit is in it.
Conservatives act out of fear and emotion. Liberals seek out and listen to experts in the medical field - especially pathologists and epidemiologists - and then make considered, rational decisions.
No "progressive" (masquerading as a "liberal") ever turned his/her back on a scheme that would aggrandize his/her power and make more people feel alienated from their own ability to wrestle wiith teir problems; it's all about control.
Conservatives act out of fear and emotion. Liberals seek out and listen to experts in the medical field - especially pathologists and epidemiologists - and then make considered, rational decisions.
It is OK to "listen to the experts" but use your own head too. Experts pretend to know more than they do. Frieden came out the first day and said the nurse had breached the protocol. The same guy two days later says the protocol was not sufficient. You wanna follow this guy? Fauchi keeps saying the virus spreads ONLY through intimate contact but airlines take planes out of circulation and change carpets and seat covers. Well, which is it? And listen to this logic. If we ban travel from Ebola countries we can't track them when they arrive in this country. They say it show after show and the idiot reporters let them get away with it. The latest is that asking the returning medical staff to go into quarantine for 21 days is too much a sacrifice. Didn't they put their lives at risk by going there? What is another 21 days?
Now let me answer my own question. Ebola ties into immigration because in both cases the border is involved, even if it is not the same border. Anything that closes the border, even temporarily, is a bad precedence. Even bringing it up reminds people of the southern border with thousands streaming in uncontrolled. They have too much invested in open borders to let Ebola close it.
There is another angle. Listening to some government doctors you get the feeling that it is not fair that we are living here free of the disease and blacks in Africa are catching it. We have to let them in. We are no better.
Last edited by HappyRider; 10-25-2014 at 09:39 PM..
You want an "angle"? Nurses treat lots of people every day in the US with tb, hepatitus, hiv, c-diff, mrsa, etc - those are all contagious.. now we're involuntarily quarantining a nurse with no symptoms, who tested *negative* for ebola, "because it's contagious"..
You think healthcare is expensive now? How about if nurses had to take 21 days off after treating a "contagious" patient? Considering most nurses treat contagious patients every single day.
If the risk associated with just doing your job is getting your name splattered across the nationwide press, having the director of the CDC *lie* about your actions, having everything you own tossed in the trash & even having the government seize your dog..and every article written about your situation has three+ pages of sexist vitriol attached.. well, you're looking at a heck of a shortage of nurses for the next "scary" outbreak.
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