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Old 10-29-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Cool, you can cite statistics. Why are blacks disproportionately on welfare?
They're deliberately being systemically under-educated by the Dems who keep them trapped in their abysmal public schools. I cited the NAEP stats. There are HUGE race-based gaps in the proficiency percentages.

But, yeah, keep voting to keep Blacks dumbed-down and poor.
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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I don't like politicians in general. But I certainly wouldn't vote for any politician who believes taking more from the American people (raising taxes) is the answer like Obama did. It's time they learn to balance a budget and cut back like every American has to.
Government finances are not analogous to a household.
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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You know damn well I am not talking about those people even though they are partly responsible for their problem. They forgot the rainy days "always" come. In other words they either bought more than they could afford and/or didn't save for the rainy day.

Then there are the breeders who are a drag on all Americans. Shall we go there?

Uhm no I don't, I don't know you from a can of paint. But your words come from the same stereotypical script. So go anywhere you want, it will just be more of the same.
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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I don't like politicians in general. But I certainly wouldn't vote for any politician who believes taking more from the American people (raising taxes) is the answer like Obama did. It's time they learn to balance a budget and cut back like every American has to.

Or like Reagan, or Bush I or Clinton, or Bush II. Yeah like I said, name ONE party in 30 years.
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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They're deliberately being systemically under-educated by the Dems who keep them trapped in their abysmal public schools. I cited the NAEP stats. There are HUGE race-based gaps in the proficiency percentages.

But, yeah, keep voting to keep Blacks dumbed-down and poor.
Correlation does not equal causation. You have to dig a lil deeper than regurgitating your same argument 50 times. It does not explain the cause.

Why are blacks trapped in abysmal public schools? Why are they on welfare? Why are the poor?

They are all related, so connect the dots. Good luck.
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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And the Republicans have basically ignored us, so what do you expect Blacks to do?
If you are waiting for a politician of any stripe to not "ignore" you, which I'm guessing implies they should DO something for you/owe you something, I think you found the problem. Solutions come from within, not waiting for someone else to do something/do the heavy lifting for you or me.
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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wow, you really bought the rhetoric

Access? You mean someone else paying for it
Health Insurance? You mean someone else paying for it.
Abortions? What's wrong with limits? I don't believe on killing the baby right before birth.
Condoms? You mean someone else pay for them.

Conservative believes that if you need to use these means, sure, but pay for them yourselves.

Democrats --> Pay for mine or you are taking away my access
No actually conservative beliefs are that society has a moral obligation to care for the vulnerable. The conservative Heritage Foundation came up with the idea of mandating health insurance, because it is more "responsible" and more cost-efficient.

That doesn't play well to your "greed is good" narrative.
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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Government finances are not analogous to a household.
wow, really? Oh that's right, you think government has money growing on trees. No, they get money from hard working American people. They need the same thing as household

Income / Revenue: (taxes)
Expenses: Studying shrimp running on a treadmill, dead beats, and the list of waste goes on

Assets: What they own that produces money (the American middle class)
Liabilities: long term debt that suck up the revenues (like interest on debt)

Cash Flow
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:42 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Nope. Bobby Jindal tried to give kids at failing schools vouchers, and AG Holder sued him for doing so. The Obama DOJ doesn't want to let red states implement school vouchers, not even when 85% of the intended voucher-recipients were Black. Dems want Blacks kept dumb and therefore poor, necessitating their votes for the Dems who promise them more and more welfare. And guess what? That plan has worked out very well for them. For decades. What percentage of Blacks vote Democrat?

Louisiana Voucher Lawsuit Opposition Aligns Minority Families With Republican Politicians

Furthermore, your point doesn't make any sense. The worst public schools are mostly in blue states:
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So Bobby Jindel admitted the schools in his state (a red one), are underfunded and dont do their job and your argument is that this proves Dems are the problem ????

As for your second link

That is a list of individual schools that are bad, some of those are even charter and private schools. You believe this proves your point somehow, can you explain why you believe individual schools prove the point that the entire states these schools are in have bad school systems ?

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Old 10-29-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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If you are waiting for a politician of any stripe to not "ignore" you, which I'm guessing implies they should DO something for you/owe you something, I think you found the problem. Solutions come from within, not waiting for someone else to do something/do the heavy lifting for you or me.
Incorrect.

Politicians represent you, hence why they want your vote. Politicians work for the constituents. They do "owe" us something (what we elected them to do).

I feel like I'm teaching a class. Gosh, why are these arguments so off-base?
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