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Old 10-27-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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There's no such thing as "worthless bills." The U.S. dollar has value by law. It has been strengthened as of late. All currencies are fiat and float against each other. Why does that anger you?



No one is extorting you. You are free to pack your bags at any time.
Laws and economics don't mix. It's like trying to pass a law against gravity.

Supply and demand determines everything in an economy.

The chickens will soon be home to roost.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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It's the increased regs that help drive up costs. You cannot sit there and tell me that the regulations and taxes auto manufacturers and airlines were living under 40 years ago are the same as they are today. We also have much more overseas competition in the automotive and airline industry than we had 40 years ago. CAFE standards drive up the cost of a car, and the research dollars that are poured into meeting those artificially imposed federal standards. Thank the unreasonable demands made by auto unions for driving up costs too.
It's unreasonable to demand that vehicles don't spew clouds of black smoke? Do you want our cities to look like China?!?!

It is unreasonable to pay auto workers a reasonable wage?
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:28 PM
 
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There is no context in which "corporations and business do not create jobs" is a correct statement.
Exactly, it was a moronic statement to make, there is no defense for it. Even if government gives a person a job, they got the money for that job from we, the industrious hard working tax payers, who pull down a paycheck from a business owner or corporation.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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There's no such thing as "worthless bills." The U.S. dollar has value by law.
It has been strengthened as of late. All currencies are fiat and float against
each other. Why does that anger you?
I task you to try using Confederate bills. You claim that they are "worthless".

The only anger displayed is by you, helplessly flapping against truth in each of your inadequate posts.


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No one is extorting you. You are free to pack your bags at any time.
Buy a dictionary, or are you admitting that you are "No one"? And in your same sentence you are claiming extortion is an acceptable practice in your little world. Try some individual thought just once and see how that works for you.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:30 PM
 
Location: southern california
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"you didnt build it.
you were just white and lucky."
i like you hillary and you know how to get elected.
but you might become president of a welfare state without business.
pray to god we dont fix voter fraud.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:31 PM
 
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It's unreasonable to demand that vehicles don't spew clouds of black smoke? Do you want our cities to look like China?!?!

It is unreasonable to pay auto workers a reasonable wage?
A reasonable demand is just payment for work performed, what the unions did to automobile manufacturers went way beyond the reasonable, it crossed the line into extortion, fueled by greed.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:31 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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How can she ever stack up against the intellectually superior ad hominems?
By making an intellectually sound and non political statement. Never gonna happen.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:31 PM
 
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Laws and economics don't mix. It's like trying to pass a law against gravity.

Supply and demand determines everything in an economy.

The chickens will soon be home to roost.


Laws are economics. Supply and demand controls everything in a free market, which we don't have.

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Exactly, it was a moronic statement to make, there is no defense for it. Even if government gives a person a job, they got the money for that job from we, the industrious hard working tax payers, who pull down a paycheck from a business owner or corporation.
No, they didn't. Their salary doesn't come from your taxes. If it did, the politicians wouldn't receive their checks during the government shutdown.

All government "spending" is money creation through a debt. In otherwords, the government prints all its expenditures.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:33 PM
 
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I task you to try using Confederate bills. You claim that they are "worthless".

The only anger displayed is by you, helplessly flapping against truth in each of your inadequate posts.




Buy a dictionary, or are you admitting that you are "No one"? And in your same sentence you are claiming extortion is an acceptable practice in your little world. Try some individual thought just once and see how that works for you.
Like I said... I just can't hope to match your insults and ad hominems.

If you want to have a rational discussion about businesses, corporations, currency, and inflation.. feel free to contribute at any time. So far, I can't find anything wrong with her statement.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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It's unreasonable to demand that vehicles don't spew clouds of black smoke? Do you want our cities to look like China?!?!

It is unreasonable to pay auto workers a reasonable wage?
You still can't seem to understand the difference between "increased regs" and any regulations at all?
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