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This is quote we've seen many times on this forum and of late I've been thinking about if it's true and how this actually works. For I do think in some ways people get more conservative as they age but I don't think it is true. I think part of it is more younger people vote for Democratic (let's use this for liberal for argument sake) with fewer voting for Republican (let's use this for conservatives for argument sake as well,) while on the older side people tend to typically vote Republican with fewer voting fewer (though more) voting Democratic. So by numbers it would make you believe it could be true but there are people who voted on both sides all along are set in their ways. Also there are some young people who voted Republican and call themselves Republican (I did up until the most recent shutdown) and of course there's old Democrats in Washington and those that continue to vote that way.
With me, I mentioned I voted Republican in both elections despite being a registered independent voter. This year with the state primaries I actually voted for more moderate Republicans and then voted more Democrat on the actual early ballot despite some the US Representative candidates for both the Republican and the Democrat party being the same in particular being against US presence internationally. The only real things they disagreed on was immigration and reproductive rights. Despite my vote, I did have a heart. I just couldn't trust the Democratic options. I actually voted against Prop 102, the Arizona state amendment preventing gay marriage/civil unions despite my Republican votes for officials besides Sheriff Joe.
As for how the whole
"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain," quote works if it does, I think it is mainly is that people all of a sudden around their 30s and 40s worry about what their taxes are used for and for free riders. Think about it, when you are 20 and getting paid low, you think of social justice that you should be given money to keep you afloat. Up until recently, by the mid 30s and 40s, people were set and didn't need assistance and complain about higher taxes because they make more and often times people claim with tax increases, the middle class is hurt (when in reality it is upper middle class at best through most increases.)
What does everyone else think?
I was never a conservative or a Republican.
However, as I have gotten older, I have become increasingly progressive.
I am traditional about some things that may not have mattered to me in my 20s. But politically, I am further left.
This is quote we've seen many times on this forum and of late I've been thinking about if it's true and how this actually works. For I do think in some ways people get more conservative as they age but I don't think it is true. I think part of it is more younger people vote for Democratic (let's use this for liberal for argument sake) with fewer voting for Republican (let's use this for conservatives for argument sake as well,) while on the older side people tend to typically vote Republican with fewer voting fewer (though more) voting Democratic. So by numbers it would make you believe it could be true but there are people who voted on both sides all along are set in their ways. Also there are some young people who voted Republican and call themselves Republican (I did up until the most recent shutdown) and of course there's old Democrats in Washington and those that continue to vote that way.
With me, I mentioned I voted Republican in both elections despite being a registered independent voter. This year with the state primaries I actually voted for more moderate Republicans and then voted more Democrat on the actual early ballot despite some the US Representative candidates for both the Republican and the Democrat party being the same in particular being against US presence internationally. The only real things they disagreed on was immigration and reproductive rights. Despite my vote, I did have a heart. I just couldn't trust the Democratic options. I actually voted against Prop 102, the Arizona state amendment preventing gay marriage/civil unions despite my Republican votes for officials besides Sheriff Joe.
As for how the whole
"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain," quote works if it does, I think it is mainly is that people all of a sudden around their 30s and 40s worry about what their taxes are used for and for free riders. Think about it, when you are 20 and getting paid low, you think of social justice that you should be given money to keep you afloat. Up until recently, by the mid 30s and 40s, people were set and didn't need assistance and complain about higher taxes because they make more and often times people claim with tax increases, the middle class is hurt (when in reality it is upper middle class at best through most increases.)
What does everyone else think?
The quote, falsely attributed to Winston Churchill, is outdated and irrelevant.
This is because the pure goals of liberals and conservatives have been so co-opted by the Republocrats and Demopublicans that the larger society has lost the perspective needed to advance any meaningful social change.
What once united us in common purpose is gone, and with it the foundation upon which compromise was laid.
Lacking the moral compass of common purpose, we are adrift and aimless, simply hoping to run up the score on our political opponents as though there were something to win by alienating fellow Americans.
For this, I blame the income tax and universal suffrage that together have made financial slaves of the working-classes that are unable to buy influence as the 0.1% are able to do and also unable to vote themselves someone else's money the way the recipient class does.
The hostility that necessarily exists between earners and takers has created two Americas ruled by an unseen donor class that provides the bulk of all campaign financing and has final say about who pays the bills.
The political conflicts that exist today are overthought and over reasoned melodramas that serve as a smokescreen for corrupt policies that punish responsible and productive behavior while rewarding failure.
It's kind of a clever partisan put-down. But it's so old it's growing whiskers.
The fact that American conservos still salivate over it all these decades later is a good indicator of their stunning lack of anything humor related, since they can't come up with anything fresh.
It's kind of a clever partisan put-down. But it's so old it's growing whiskers.
The fact that American conservos still salivate over it all these decades later is a good indicator of their stunning lack of anything humor related, since they can't come up with anything fresh.
when i was twenty, i was a liberal and wanted to save the world, when i turn thirty i relies they wanted me to pay for it, very right wing conservative now
Yep, it's easy to have a heart when someone else is paying for it. When you become responsible for your own family, no matter how much you'd like to help, you realize you can't take care of everyone especially if the people won't help themselves. You also realize there are people who will keep taking as long as you allow it.
The best thing anyone can do for society (barring age or disability) is to be self supporting and not be a taker on society. As you go through life the best thing anyone can do for society is plan and save for their elderly years but the progressive tax code dictates how much income is enough without taking into account people need to save and invest for their futures.
It's not personal for me. I didn't vote for Trump. I just see it as an identifier of the groupthink crowd who find solace in inclusion and solidarity in branding. It's just plain childish.
It's not personal for me. I didn't vote for Trump. I just see it as an identifier of the groupthink crowd who find solace in inclusion and solidarity in branding. It's just plain childish.
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If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain
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