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Old 10-30-2014, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I don't see any reason for the renewable we have, unless its in a remote location where power lines are not available. If you actually get down to the true cost of solar and wind without subsidies, it makes no sense at all.
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Old 10-30-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I don't see any reason for the renewable we have, unless its in a remote location where power lines are not available. If you actually get down to the true cost of solar and wind without subsidies, it makes no sense at all.
Well, for one, it would help other areas of the world without the infrastructure that we have built here in the states. We could also dramatically lower our infrastructure costs by localizing power to homes, instead of an electrical grid.

On a national security standpoint, localized solar panels, wind, natural gas on a house makes us less vulnerable to a solar flare or terrorist attack. As well as we wouldn't be funding Islamic royal families that fund international terrorism, and we could leave the middle east alone.

Just a few of the good reasons to go with renewable sources of energy, that don't require massive power generation stations.
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Old 10-30-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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Well, 5 out of 3 people are really bad at math
87.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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It would dramatically cut into the profit margins of Exxon and several other US oil operations as well. Its not just about coal, Republicans are against removal of subsidy from the oil industry and coal.

I say remove it from all. Solar, wind, coal, oil, nuclear, every damned one of them. Let the free market decide.
Food, energy, and water are way too important to leave entirely up to the free market. People take for granted the lights can always be on, the faucet will keep running, and food can be purchased. We just need to have better policies to provide these essentials.
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Old 10-30-2014, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Food, energy, and water are way too important to leave entirely up to the free market. People take for granted the lights can always be on, the faucet will keep running, and food can be purchased. We just need to have better policies to provide these essentials.
Um, the free market likes money. Customers demand 24/7 service. I think the issue takes care of itself.
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Old 10-30-2014, 02:21 PM
 
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Sorry, I prefer to keep my own 18 cents, instead of handing it to Gore and Obama's cronies.
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Old 10-30-2014, 02:22 PM
 
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Here's an idea: 50% of this country identifies themselves as Democrat. Why don't they voluntarily send in 36 cents every month, and be done with it?
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Old 10-30-2014, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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Why don't we remove all federal subsidy from all energy companies and let the free market decide?
That would **** off the Oil/Gas/Coal companies that buy our politicians on both sides of the aisle.
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Old 10-30-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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Why don't we remove all federal subsidy from all energy companies and let the free market decide?
now there is an interesting idea. too bad our government wont do that anytime ever.
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Old 10-30-2014, 04:13 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Um, the free market likes money. Customers demand 24/7 service. I think the issue takes care of itself.
But does any country leave it up to the free markets completely? I'm all for making things more efficient, but I don't see an entire free market solution as the answer... which I'm talking about.

How long would it have taken electricity to reach many rural areas had it not been for the New Deal?
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