Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Great idea. San Fran servers & bartenders should have ALL their tips fully taxed, pooled & then split "equitably" with the chefs, cooks, dishwashers et al. If they think socialism is great, this will give them a real taste of it.
Easy enough to tax when it's a part of the bill.
Most restaurants pool tips and/ or require their wait staff to " tip out" based on the value of the check.
When a wait person gets stiffed, they are still required to tip out.
Chefs/ cooks rarely participate in the tipping pool.
Including the cost of service in the price of food or adding a service charge is how the majority of the world handles employee compensation.
Tell that to the workers who will now pay tax on all that reported income.
"Negligible" ?
On average, wait staff under report by 50% their tips.
Paying full taxes on all of it now (including FICA) is hardly negligible.
The city does not collect taxes on wages - so this is not "all about taxes - nothing else", and this 20% surcharge IS NOT A LAW.
I don't support tax dodgers and we shouldn't have a situation where restaurants pay $2.13/hour (Texas) and employees have to make up the rest of their income in unreported tips.
The city does not collect taxes on wages - so this is not "all about taxes - nothing else", and this 20% surcharge IS NOT A LAW.
I don't support tax dodgers and we shouldn't have a situation where restaurants pay $2.13/hour (Texas) and employees have to make up the rest of their income in unreported tips.
The city does not collect taxes on wages - so this is not "all about taxes - nothing else", and this 20% surcharge IS NOT A LAW.
I don't support tax dodgers and we shouldn't have a situation where restaurants pay $2.13/hour (Texas) and employees have to make up the rest of their income in unreported tips.
The IRS reports that only about 50% of tips are reported as income.
No, it's not "all about taxes" but the workers will be paying more of them now.
Please explain where I am wrong. You are claiming that the 20% surcharge is a law?
It is a service charge that will be doled out equally among all employees resulting in higher wages for some and lower wages for others.
Yes it is reportable income; it always was but it was up to the worker to report it.
Law has nothing to do with wages.
This is a mechanism where all revenue to the worker will now be reported to the city, state and local governments as wages by the restaurant.
5 Bay Area restaurants taking tips off table, adding surcharge - SFGate
One major shift will be in reporting tips for tax purposes. Generally speaking, cash tips have a tendency to go unreported among restaurant servers. Once the service charge becomes an official line item on a receipt, people will be accountable. Hoffman said employees at Comal will not see a change in their income if they have been declaring all of their tips.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.