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Old 11-04-2014, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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I almost expect McConnell (sadly) to, assuming the results that I don't want to see tonight come true, change the 60 vote rule, to 55 or even simple majority on everything, as pay back for what Reid did with the rule change to 50, even though that was only with Judicial Nominees.
Is the 2/3rds rule in the constitution or can the Senate change that too?
If McConnell becomes the leader and makes that change, it's just going to be more of the same gridlock, may be a little bit less since, democrats, like they proved during W's tenure, several times, are lot less obstructionist, than Republicans are. Haters, look up the amount of times the fillibuster has been used since 2009 and try to tell me I'm wrong.
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Old 11-04-2014, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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The number of congressional votes required to override a presidential veto is set in the constitution.

I am *not* in favor of allowing a presidential veto with 51%. I don't care who the hell the president is, or who the hell is running congress, for that matter. Just, no.
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Old 11-04-2014, 03:19 PM
 
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constitution article 1 section 7.

so no not really
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Old 11-04-2014, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Relax, the Pubs should they win will not change the rules on cloture votes. It would not help them as Obama can veto anything they pass and they know full well the odds of them holding the Senate for more than two years are slim indeed. They will probably stick with the new rules on appointments, but that doesn't matter anyway to them. They will simply stand in the way of all Obama appointments for the next two years if they want. Really, the republicans can't do anything with the Senate but make political theater, grandstand, hold silly hearings, shut down the government again, and block progress for the next two years - all of which you can expect.
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Old 11-04-2014, 03:49 PM
 
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Relax, the Pubs should they win will not change the rules on cloture votes. It would not help them as Obama can veto anything they pass and they know full well the odds of them holding the Senate for more than two years are slim indeed. They will probably stick with the new rules on appointments, but that doesn't matter anyway to them. They will simply stand in the way of all Obama appointments for the next two years if they want. Really, the republicans can't do anything with the Senate but make political theater, grandstand, hold silly hearings, shut down the government again, and block progress for the next two years - all of which you can expect.
Yeah, all things they could already do.

Only difference is now they can't complain that the senate is killing all their brilliant legislation.
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Old 11-04-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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Good Grief - what a question.
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:12 PM
 
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Good Grief - what a question.
To be fair a lot of people study the constitution in high school, then the next time they really think about anything other then a few rights is when they're much older.

And some folks cant use google for some reason.
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Riding the light...
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Relax, the Pubs should they win will not change the rules on cloture votes. It would not help them as Obama can veto anything they pass and they know full well the odds of them holding the Senate for more than two years are slim indeed. They will probably stick with the new rules on appointments, but that doesn't matter anyway to them. They will simply stand in the way of all Obama appointments for the next two years if they want. Really, the republicans can't do anything with the Senate but make political theater, grandstand, hold silly hearings, shut down the government again, and block progress for the next two years - all of which you can expect.
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Yeah, all things they could already do.

Only difference is now they can't complain that the senate is killing all their brilliant legislation.
They can pass bills, even bipartisan legislation, to Prezzy for his signature instead of bills dying a slow death of Harry Reid. All that grandstanding will be done by Prezzy if he refuses to sign a bipartisan bill, including actual budgets.
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Grove City, Ohio
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The number of congressional votes required to override a presidential veto is set in the constitution.

I am *not* in favor of allowing a presidential veto with 51%. I don't care who the hell the president is, or who the hell is running congress, for that matter. Just, no.
I agree with you 100%.
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:26 PM
 
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Good Grief - what a question.
It's an O.K. question but one easily looked up for oneself.
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