Malcolm X called out black democrats decades ago (Congressmen, statistics, Canada)

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by DahomeyAhosi

I distinctly said the KKK was created by southern democrats. This was in opposition to reconstruction era policies implemented by republicans. You can not dispute that.

I want to bring this back to the key word: democrat rather than segregationist. Nice attempt to derail though.

1. Yes, it can be disputed because all you are doing is putting forth a claim with nothing to back it up.

Are you really arguing that you have historical data saying every founding member of the KKK was a Democrat ?

2. Malcolm X said Southern Segregationist, not Southern Democrat. So how am i derailing anything ???

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by DahomeyAhosi

No. My point is that black people have been voting for a party that couldn't care less about them for decades and brother Malcolm is one of many who pointed that out. I usually say exactly what I mean (see post 1).

Both you and "brother" Malcolm are wrong seeing as the majority of black people in the 1960's lived in the South at a higher volume than they do now.

Who they voted for didnt matter, because the Democrat was going to win either way.

lets look at the 1960 Senate elections shall we....

Alabama, John Sparkman 70.2%
Arkansas, John L. McClellan unopposed
Georgia, Richard Russell, Jr. unopposed
Louisiana, Allen J. Ellender 79.8%
Mississippi, James O. Eastland 91.8%
North Carolina, B. Everett Jordan 61.5%
South Carolina, Strom Thurmond Unopposed
Tennessee, Estes Kefauver 71.8%

tell me which one of those senators would have lost if black people just voted for the Southern Republican, who by the way, also would have voted against the civil rights act ????

[Mason3000]

Originally Posted by JJG

This was during a time when the typical Democrat (especially in the South) was in favor of this...

He also addressed Liberal/Conservative ideology, not just party affiliation. If

"In this deceitful American game of power politics, the Negroes (i.e., the race problem, the integration and civil rights issues) are nothing but tools, used by one group of whites called Liberals against another group of whites called Conservatives, either to get into power or to remain in power. Among whites here in America, the political teams are no longer divided into Democrats and Republicans. The whites who are now struggling for control of the American political throne are divided into "liberal" and "conservative" camps. The white liberals from both parties cross party lines to work together toward the same goal, and white conservatives from both parties do likewise.

The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro's friend and benefactor; and by winning the friendship, allegiance, and support of the Negro, the white liberal is able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political "football game" that is constantly raging between the white liberals and white conservatives."

"The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the "smiling" fox."

[Mason3000]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

Both you and "brother" Malcolm are wrong seeing as the majority of black people in the 1960's lived in the South at a higher volume than they do now.

Who they voted for didnt matter, because the Democrat was going to win either way.

lets look at the 1960 Senate elections shall we....

Alabama, John Sparkman 70.2%
Arkansas, John L. McClellan unopposed
Georgia, Richard Russell, Jr. unopposed
Louisiana, Allen J. Ellender 79.8%
Mississippi, James O. Eastland 91.8%
North Carolina, B. Everett Jordan 61.5%
South Carolina, Strom Thurmond Unopposed
Tennessee, Estes Kefauver 71.8%

tell me which one of those senators would have lost if black people just voted for the Southern Republican, who by the way, also would have voted against the civil rights act ????

You never miss an opportunity to Tom for the party that keeps Blacks down. Too many years living comfy in the man's house.

[Mason3000]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

That's because thier leadership has been hijacked so people don't speak out like they once did about their conditions.

Al Sharpton didn't get to speak at the DNC for making big stinks about public education and segregation style public houses in cities like Chicago. That's what get's your speaking engagements canceled.

Todays civil rights leaders are politically beholden cowards that will only tackle approved issues.

"Politically the American Negro is nothing but a football and the white liberals control this mentally dead ball through tricks of tokenism: false promises of integration and civil rights. In this profitable game of deceiving and exploiting the political politician of the American Negro, those white liberals have the willing cooperation of the Negro civil rights leaders. These "leaders" sell out our people for just a few crumbs of token recognition and token gains. These "leaders" are satisfied with token victories and token progress because they themselves are nothing but token leaders."

[chad3]

Originally Posted by renault

Shows how things haven't changed much in 40 years. Black Americans still cling to the Democrat chains.


Elbert Guillory: Mary Landrieu is Not Helping Blacks - YouTube

Who gives black Americans who live in extreme poverty free cell phones? Democrats.
Who gives black Americans who live in extreme poverty welfare and food stamps? Democrats.
Who gives black Americans who live in extreme poverty Sect 8 Housing? Democrats.
Who wants to raise black Americans who live in extreme poverty min wage? Democrats.

Who wants to end poor black Americans government assistance programs, and exchange it for tax cuts for the rich? Republicans.

Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress
Rand Paul's fix for Detroit: lower taxes for the rich, more pollution & lower wages for the poor


Any black American who has respect for their fellow black Americans who live in extreme poverty (will always vote democrat.)

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by tinman01

This pretty much makes your point.
The Democratic Party's Two-Facedness of Race Relations*|*The Relentless Conservative

The Dems do not hold any moral high ground.
http://patdollard.com/2014/02/flashb...ext-200-years/

The link doesnt make his point at all.

I have yet to understand why Republicans believe finding a bunch of quotes from Democrats in the 1930s and 40s makes Democrats today racist or makes them more racist than the republicans at that time.

So you honestly believe no republican for that time has ever said a racist thing ?



And the second link doesnt work.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Mason3000

You never miss an opportunity to Tom for the party that keeps Blacks down. Too many years living comfy in the man's house.

You can throw insults all you want, but you have yet to disprove my point. You didnt even try because you knew you couldnt.

This also isnt an "opportunity", He was making an argument based on a flawed point, I simply showed that flaw with actual election results.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

That's because thier leadership has been hijacked so people don't speak out like they once did about their conditions.

Al Sharpton didn't get to speak at the DNC for making big stinks about public education and segregation style public houses in cities like Chicago. That's what get's your speaking engagements canceled.

Todays civil rights leaders are politically beholden cowards that will only tackle approved issues.

Al Sharpton didnt speak at the DNC because Democrats know right wingers like yourself hate him.

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by 3~Shepherds

You want us to believe Pelosi, Reid and Feinstein would run out to get the votes......yeah, right on it! Give us one thing this administration did to improve the black community, just one will do and if you can give two!

Remember Pelosi is washing the feet of others.

I thought you conservatives maintain that it's not the government's job to improve one's lot in life.

So now you've had a change of heart? It IS the government's job now?

Ok..What has the government done to improve your life?

And whatever you do, don't try to play Mr. Conservative and say "nothing." You've already admitted that you expect government to improve your life. Read your own post.

You conservatives can't make up your minds.