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Old 11-11-2014, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Sounds nice but the fact is just to keep up with population growth we need to add 143,000 jobs every month.
So do we need 143,000 additional jobs or what? Also wouldn't boomers at some point die off and with people getting married later and some not even having kids, wouldn't this slow down population growth (well besides immigration which is another issue altogether.
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Old 11-11-2014, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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So why all the whining on CD about people not being able to find jobs?
There are many reasons:
  1. The requirements for jobs effectively locking some out. They want not just a knowledge in office suite but often software above and beyond that. Look at the Catana 6 in a Six-Sigma setting requirement for auto-CAD.
  2. The low-ball wages for the jobs offered. Many "entry-level jobs" are effectively asking for junior-level employees at the entry-level price tag.
  3. The types of jobs created. Many jobs we lost in the recession were in fact middle and high wage jobs while of the jobs created 3-1 were low-wage. Throw in part-time work and you have a bigger amount of jobs.
  4. Working two+ jobs. As a part of people trying to avert low wage and part-time work, people are trying to look for two jobs or even more. A person working two jobs can contribute more but it limits people in the economy. In 2010 6.8 millions worked at least two jobs.
  5. Population growth. Many consider the growing population a problem but yet the labor force (those with a job and looking) is going down. Perhaps it will go up with the economy improving but we shall see.
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Old 11-11-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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Most of these jobs are part-time non-skilled Mcjobs paying 8 dollar an hour. The Obama administration and liberal media is really full of BS.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-1...t-labor-market

Did you sleep through your economics and financial math classes in college?
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Old 11-11-2014, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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A matching report detailing if there was an decrease in the number of people on Government assistance would be beneficial to benchmark that one to confirm the jobs attained produced enough income to be self-supporting.
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Old 11-11-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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The refusal of certain people to acknowledge even the most obvious forms of American economic progress is absolutely astounding. There are people who actually think the BLS is defrauding the American people with "fake numbers." Hilarious.
It'll be interesting to see if the perception of the economy/BLS on this board changes after the election.
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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5.8%? Hurray!........still unemployed...lol

It will never be 0%, a certain percentage of the population is simply unemployable in the best of times.
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:10 PM
 
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It'll be interesting to see if the perception of the economy/BLS on this board changes after the election.
I could tell from personal observation the economics have improved, loads of new high cost contracts that were not there before at work, and much more shows it.

The President and congress do not create the millions of jobs needed- INDUSTRY and BUSINESS creates jobs.
They say 20 million out of work long term, if the govt suddenly decided to put those 20 million to work doing something, sweeping the streets, picking up trash, whatever, do the math:

20 million x $10/hour = $200 million per hour, x 40 hours per week= $8 billion a week just for paychecks alone, not including the employers' SS payments, insurance, payroll/program costs, paying supervisors and managers to oversee and issue work to crews etc etc.

One could say $10 billion per week right there in direct costs, that's this week, next week, the week after, month after month.
Due to population growth, the nation has to create about 150,000 NEW jobs each month just to keep up- figuring the same $10/hour for 150,000 comes to roughly $15 million of additional monies per week
added to the $10 billion a week.

The govt doesn't PRODUCE anything marketable (except headaches) , it does not produce products, goods, clothing, vehicles or food that can be sold to earn profits, business and industry do that and create the jobs.

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Old 11-12-2014, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Most of these jobs are part-time non-skilled Mcjobs paying 8 dollar an hour. The Obama administration and liberal media is really full of BS.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-1...t-labor-market

Did you sleep through your economics and financial math classes in college?
Actually you are confused. You are talking about the job gains up to September 2014 when we had rather equal gains which mostly continued into October's numbers which also was about the same size as September's gains. I addressed this in a post on page six of this thread where it will show I am not as liberal as one may think by defending the Obama admin (who only has so much power in creating jobs unless they pull an FDR with all the infrastructure work like the Hoover Dam, Tennessee Valley Association and other depression era stop-gaps.)

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Actually no. Just like last month's report, there are more better paying jobs in the mix which is a good thing to prove that there is no real anomaly with Septembers's gains and that these gains. I am not saying this as an Obama supporter, I didn't even vote for him either time. I have been quoted around here bringing up CNN Fact Checks with the types of jobs lost under Obama's first six months vs. jobs created under Obama since (up to the election) with a three to one ratio of low wage jobs to middle and high wage jobs. These last two months are steps in the right direction and I can only hope they continue.
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Things are great! This is why the democrats dominated the 2014 elections.
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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What a joke. And you believe this, I suppose?
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