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Old 11-18-2014, 10:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
Who are the sheep following? The RW media overplaying the same comments over and over. The speaker (Gruber) who said he was wrong for making the comments last week.

Who followed the discussion, those who have gotten the Ins, and find it works just fine and has lower costs. Or the people who listen to the RW media and fall for every website claiming that Obamacare is bad.

Look at the whole picture and you will find you are being played.

The republicans were not stupid enough to buy the BS.....
He was directly calling democrats stupid voters!

 
Old 11-18-2014, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I am actually praising Obama a bit. He is learning to temper his lies.

Obama went from lying about his own mother's death for political points and repeating the lie after caught in it - to knowing that there needs to be limits to his lies.

It had to be tempting to pull a Pelosi and pretend that he didn't know Gruber. But Obama knew that it would come out that it was BS, just like it did with Pelosi, and just like this video proved - so Obama just distanced himself from Gruber's lies.

Perhaps Obama is starting to feel some pressure to be honest for the first time in his presidency. He has to know that millions would be ready to excuse the lie if he were caught in lying about not knowing Gruber.
Obama never lied about his mother's death nor did he lie about Gruber. Right wing news is like listening to catty, gossipy, middle-school girls bully a classmate: childish, irrelevant, unsubstantial, and non-productive.
 
Old 11-18-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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What relevance does a 2006 video have regarding comments made by Gruber 6 years later?

Seriously folks, get a grip on reality.
 
Old 11-18-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Obama is all about any means to an end.. his way or the highway, his ideology above the peoples.

Obama is a great speaker who blatantly lies, manipulates, sugar coats , and blames others.. he is not responsible for his actions, nor does he care if he lies to us.

Obama the absolute worst president with the character of a deceiver and Obama is power hungry as well.

Obama makes President Bush look great.
 
Old 11-18-2014, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by Taratova View Post
Obama is all about any means to an end.. his way or the highway, his ideology above the peoples.

Obama is a great speaker who blatantly lies, manipulates, sugar coats , and blames others.. he is not responsible for his actions, or does he care if he lies to us.

Obama the absolute worst president with the character of a deceiver and Obama is power hungry as well.

Obama makes President Bush look great.
What was the lie of Obama regarding the video or Gruber?
 
Old 11-18-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
I am actually praising Obama a bit. He is learning to temper his lies.

Obama went from lying about his own mother's death for political points and repeating the lie after caught in it - to knowing that there needs to be limits to his lies.

It had to be tempting to pull a Pelosi and pretend that he didn't know Gruber. But Obama knew that it would come out that it was BS, just like it did with Pelosi, and just like this video proved - so Obama just distanced himself from Gruber's lies.

Perhaps Obama is starting to feel some pressure to be honest for the first time in his presidency. He has to know that millions would be ready to excuse the lie if he were caught in lying about not knowing Gruber.


Nah, same old BS'er.
He's complicit in these lies.
 
Old 11-18-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
That's your version and you are sticking to it I quoted Grubar's own words a number of times, so I won't bother again.
Good, you wont waste your time continuing to lie about what Gruber has said..
 
Old 11-18-2014, 10:48 AM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
You know what?

Not one Republican bought the lies.


Who really is the stupid uninformed voter?

The ones who thought George Bush was a solid choice? The ones who thought it was smarter to run Todd Akin and Chritien O'Donnell over established candidates that likely would have won? The ones who thought Sarah Palin was a wonderful choice to be VP? Both parties have their fair share of stupid uninformed voters.

 
Old 11-18-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
The OP went back to 2006 so I thought this was a thread about the past.

Must have hit a nerve?

Obama is good but he cannot predict the future. Conflating 2006 statements of Obama with statements made by a man years later makes no sense at all. My post was merely demonstrating this.
Oh you struck a nerve alright, its called the funny bone....

The discussion is about Obama's relationship with Gruber.

But you knew that..
 
Old 11-18-2014, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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It all comes down to if Obama and the Democrats are so proud of Obamacare why didn't their incumbent candidates shout it from the rooftops to get re-elected? Brag about their role in passing it? Wear "I GAVE YOU OBAMACARE! tee shirts on the campaign trail? Talk about those amazing deductibles? Why did they have to pass the bill to find out what's in it if it was so wonderful? Why did Obama and Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber Who? who visited the White House 19 times per the White House Visitor Logs? They're treating the guy like he's Grubola, someone they couldn't pick out of a crowd of 2 people and in need of quarantine. If Obamacare is so wonderful why did they have to lie about keeping your doctor/plan? Why did they have to obfuscate to get the Congressional Budget Office to low ball it if it's so wonderful cost-wise? Why aren't they upset that Gruber thinks they're stupid because the Republicans didn't vote for Obamacare so they weren't hoodwinked. The stupid people he refers to must be the Democrats, you know, those intelligent donkeys in the White House and on Capitol Hill that must have missed the invention of videotape and sound recording.
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