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View Poll Results: Should Obama be allowed to force through amnesty?
YES 14 7.33%
NO 177 92.67%
Voters: 191. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-20-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
Wow, the Obamabots are losing this poll badly.

I don't know why Obamabots are upset by the lack of coverage for Obama's crime tonight - it is doing him a favor, as polls show most Americans disagree with his plan.

https://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/...out-everybody/

Voters Strongly Oppose Obama's Amnesty Plan for Illegal Immigrants - Rasmussen Reports™

Poll: Just 47% of Latinos Support Obama's Executive Amnesty | The Weekly Standard
Next he'll be on TV tearing up the constitution and the grubers will defend him.

 
Old 11-20-2014, 03:07 PM
 
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No, because then that legal Americans hard earned money goes further at the grocery store when they buy milk, produce, and numerous other items which are 25% cheaper or more in some cases because of that illegals work.

So give .01 cent, and get back a dollar. I'll take that deal

Nonsense.

You apparently don't have a clue as to how pricing works. Next, you're going to tell us that if there weren't illegals working in agriculture, then milk will be $50/gallon and a head of lettuce will cost $10

Here is something for you to ponder---there is no difference in the cost of produce that is grown by farmers who use the agricultural guest worker program or legal immigrants or Americans to do the work than there is for sleazy farmers who refuse to use the guest worker program and opt instead for cheap, exploitable, illegal labor.

Start doing research on this topic.
 
Old 11-20-2014, 03:11 PM
 
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F

Watch.

The legislature has had over 15 years to fix this.

So the President acts. The legieslarure can still fjx if they choose to do if.
The national debt has increased every single Fiscal Year since 1957. This means that the next Republican president can use the emperor powers of Obama to create the official budget by slashing spending where ever he or she sees fit to fix this problem, as congress has had years to fix it.
 
Old 11-20-2014, 03:15 PM
 
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1. Secure the border first
2. make them get behind people who complied with our laws.

Obama's Way:
1. Keep the border open
2. Obama lets them jump line.
3. Buses are already loaded and on their way here.
4. Rince and repeat.
 
Old 11-20-2014, 03:25 PM
 
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But, The Simpson - Mazzoli Act was an ACT of CONGRESS.

Sounded like a dumb, noodle headed idea back then. Same today.
I'm sure there are those that wish they get this kind of leeway when they break the law.
Either enforce our immigration laws or don't bother having any at all.
 
Old 11-20-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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Either enforce our immigration laws or don't bother having any at all.
Correct. There are only two reasonable solutions;

1. Enforce the current law. Close the border. Deport any person living here illegally. Work to make immigration easier and faster.

Or.

2. Eliminate immigration restrictions. Shut down border control operations. Allow anyone to enter and leave the USA at any time. Only deport violent criminals.

Obama's plan does neither and will continue to waste billions on border control.
 
Old 11-20-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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Correct. There are only two reasonable solutions;

1. Enforce the current law. Close the border. Deport any person living here illegally. Work to make immigration easier and faster.

Or.

2. Eliminate immigration restrictions. Shut down border control operations. Allow anyone to enter and leave the USA at any time. Only deport violent criminals.

Obama's plan does neither and will continue to waste billions on border control.


1. Does not work. Well over 40% don't enter over the border. And there is no agreement in places like TX to restrict access to the Rio Grande. There is also a factor of at least 5 in the size of the immigration force required to enforce the existing laws So we need another 10 billion or so a year and thousands more officers to do it. All in all 1 is a failure.

So you favor open borders. That is a bit rich for me. That would legalize the existing 11 million and likely bring in another 20 or 25 million from elsewhere. I will pass on that.

So you got no solution. Maybe you better hope the President does better than you.
 
Old 11-20-2014, 04:17 PM
 
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The national debt has increased every single Fiscal Year since 1957. This means that the next Republican president can use the emperor powers of Obama to create the official budget by slashing spending where ever he or she sees fit to fix this problem, as congress has had years to fix it.
See the USSC decision on the Clinton line item veto. A President can only veto a whole piece of legislation...no piecemealing.
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