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I've got no need to read the same talking point thats been thrown around for nearly 1/2 a decade..
And of course they give benefits to those under a set poverty line, its called welfare..
Except welfare isn't health care. For states that chose to participate in expanded Medicare coverage, more people are covered. A lot of Republican governors have refused that too.
I know. So better to stay where they are and vote for their own insurance coverage. Or not.
Ahhh, but all we've heard during the passage of ACA was that we needed to pass ACA so people wouldnt be stuck where they were.. You know, the right to get health insurance and not be stuck with their job..
Nancy Pelosi justified ACA because people could go persue their passion.
The CBO says that we wont ever get below 30 million uninsured, this has nothing to do with implementing in other states. ACA taxes individuals without insurance and for many, paying the tax is a far better option, especially given that the tax only affects those with refunds. Those without, dont have to pay it..
To equate that to Romneycare, which gives tax credits to people to buy insurance, and doesnt penalize others so you can afford it, is silly..
But thats the Democratic way, lie to the public and let fools repeat the lies on forums...
Actually it does.
Paraphrased: pg 4.
c. ...The uninsured population includes illegal immigrants who will be ineligible for subsidies or Medicaid, people who will be ineligible for Medicaid because they live in a state that has chosen not to expand coverage, people that are eligible for Medicaid and choose not to enroll, and people who choose not to enroll in private coverage.
Except welfare isn't health care. For states that chose to participate in expanded Medicare coverage, more people are covered. A lot of Republican governors have refused that too.
medicaid is indeed welfare.. and it existed far before ACA, which of course I'm sure you know.. So I'm not sure your point..
Ahhh, but all we've heard during the passage of ACA was that we needed to pass ACA so people wouldnt be stuck where they were.. You know, the right to get health insurance and not be stuck with their job..
Nancy Pelosi justified ACA because people could go persue their passion.
Now you want these people to DIE!!!!
Yep. If Republican governors don't want to implement ACA, then they can deal with their own constituents while looking at states like Washington where people are getting coverage, working, going to school and growing their economy.
c. ...The uninsured population includes illegal immigrants who will be ineligible for subsidies or Medicaid, people who will be ineligible for Medicaid because they live in a state that has chosen not to expand coverage, people that are eligible for Medicaid and choose not to enroll, and people who choose not to enroll in private coverage.
Yep. If Republican governors don't want to implement ACA, then they can deal with their own constituents while looking at states like Washington where people are getting coverage, working, going to school and growing their economy.
When ACA was passed we had 50 million uninsured people in the country, of which 14 million were illegals.. That left 36 million uninsured. We then climbed to 46 million and now have 41 million uninsured americans..
Thats an INCREASE of 5 million uninsured americans...
You can stand here and applaud the expansion of medicaid, and ignore that millions more lost insurance if you want, but you also ignore that these states need to pay for it down the road...
Taxing citizen A so citizen B can have insurance, doesnt grow the economy, nor does it put people to work. people obtaining medicaid due to poverty isnt something to be proud of..
When ACA was passed we had 50 million uninsured people in the country, of which 14 million were illegals.. That left 36 million uninsured. We then climbed to 46 million and now have 41 million uninsured americans..
Thats an INCREASE of 5 million uninsured americans...
You can stand here and applaud the expansion of medicaid, and ignore that millions more lost insurance if you want, but you also ignore that these states need to pay for it down the road...
Taxing citizen A so citizen B can have insurance, doesnt grow the economy, nor does it put people to work. people obtaining medicaid due to poverty isnt something to be proud of..
And you can keep repeating the same posts while people give you the same responses but it isn't something to be proud of.
And you can keep repeating the same posts while people give you the same responses but it isn't something to be proud of.
Thats what you're doing.. You're on 3 different threads posting the same old nonsense about killing medicare, claiming thats the same as ACA, when reality is, that its not..
You can also ignore the numbers, and claim that the only reason 30 million will go without insurance post ACA is because some states arent expanding Medicaid, but again, thats a lie, but you continue to repeat it..
See, you are a walking talking poster with nothing but talking points, and when someone post facts, this is how you respond..
The number will NEVER get below 30 million, even if every state implimented medicaid..
Read the dam report..
If that were true then why would the CBO include them in the uninsured numbers and state that they contribute to the uninsured numbers. My previous numbers were from pg 4, these are from pg 5.
Paragraph 1, page 5:
"In that year, about 30 percent of those uninsured people are expected to be unauthorized immigrants and thus ineligible either for exchange subsidies or for most Medicaid benefits; about 5 percent will be ineligible for Medicaid because they live in a state that has chosen not to expand coverage; about 20 percent will be eligible for Medicaid but will choose not to enroll; and the remaining 45 percent will not purchase insurance to which they have access through an employer, an exchange, or directly from an insurer."
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