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Old 11-11-2014, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I thought it wasn't politicians that create jobs? Wasn't that the jab at Hillary Clinton?
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:14 AM
 
Location: DFW
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I thought it wasn't politicians that create jobs? Wasn't that the jab at Hillary Clinton?
Pretty much. His policies have just distributed what jobs there are to an addition 10+ millions of people.
The immigrant population is increasing faster than job growth. That creates a shortage of jobs.

But you knew that.
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Glenn Carbon, IL
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It's the six year rape of America, another two years of it and it will go from rape to abuse of a corpse.
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Pretty much. His policies have just distributed what jobs there are to an addition 10+ millions of people.
The immigrant population is increasing faster than job growth. That creates a shortage of jobs.

But you knew that.
Well lets look at that shall we.

For one, those extra 11 million people create demand for food, utilities, roads, cars, fuel, insurance, and a whole host of other things that increase demand that far outweigh the jobs that they are doing. The people that we do have unemployed are often younger people who aren't going out to these low wage, seasonal employment opportunities. I know people that own a fruit orchard. They tried to hire 18 and 19 year old kids to go out and pick fruit. They can't keep up, can't do the work.

The lower prices we pay for produce and labor costs made up by illegal workers gives you, me, and everyone on this board here in the states extra income to spend, or save at a bank. Savings at banks create more jobs with more loan opportunities.

So tell us, where are the jobs that illegals are taking them? 40% of illegals came here under work visas and simply stayed over. Thats 4.4 million of them. They are already gamefully employed in jobs that we knew they would be filling when they came here to the states. Americans weren't doing them already. The other 6.6 million are generally manual labor jobs that many unemployed don't want, can't afford to take, or aren't nearby to take advantage of. People aren't moving from Los Angeles to work fields in North West Tennessee for instance.
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Old 11-11-2014, 09:20 AM
 
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Pretty much. His policies have just distributed what jobs there are to an addition 10+ millions of people.
The immigrant population is increasing faster than job growth. That creates a shortage of jobs.

But you knew that.
He knows but doesn't give a damn. He cares more about illegal foreigners than our own citizens. Either he is an illegal alien, has ties to them or hires them. All of which are anti-American sentiments.
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Old 11-11-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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I can see why.......after all......his meddling in Honduras is what caused some of the problems there.

I have relatives in Hounduras that lost their job because of Obama getting into their elections.
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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Well lets see....

Unemployment is down, what most people complain about are stagnant wages. Exactly what is the president, unilaterally, supposed to do to increase wages?

Allowing illegals to stay, and fixing the immigration system is a boom to the economy. That creates new demand, which drives jobs, and increases wages. It also keeps food, housing, and other things you buy cheaper, which gives you more money to buy things you like.

So please, explain to me how the President is supposed to increase wages on his own, without congress
And where do they get the money to create demand. oh that's right, Pelosi said Welfare, (stealing off one group of people to give to another) helps stimulate the economy.
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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And where do they get the money to create demand. oh that's right, Pelosi said Welfare, (stealing off one group of people to give to another) helps stimulate the economy.
By working, and putting in a decent days work. Work that other people aren't doing. If there were no jobs for them, then there'd be no need for them to come here.

People aren't doing the work. They aren't doing those jobs for lots of reasons. Low wages, no benefits, to far away from where they live and they can't afford to move, or the work is just to damned hard for them to physically do.

Thats why we need legal immigrants. Our legal immigration system is broken, and needs to be reformed. Neither party is willing to push that, or compromise. So, here we are.
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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By working, and putting in a decent days work. Work that other people aren't doing. If there were no jobs for them, then there'd be no need for them to come here.

People aren't doing the work. They aren't doing those jobs for lots of reasons. Low wages, no benefits, to far away from where they live and they can't afford to move, or the work is just to damned hard for them to physically do.

Thats why we need legal immigrants. Our legal immigration system is broken, and needs to be reformed. Neither party is willing to push that, or compromise. So, here we are.
So another words, taking American jobs. You're also saying that that people would rather sit home then take the jobs. Low Wages? So if the wages are too low for Americans, wouldn't they be too low for illegal immigrants?

Stop parroting the BS Memphis
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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I thought it wasn't politicians that create jobs? Wasn't that the jab at Hillary Clinton?
People are such nitwits and want so desperately to believe in the lies. Politician get in the way of creating jobs, funneling more poverty into America isn't going to help.

Stop being a Democrats useful idiot Memphis.
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