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Old 11-12-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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Lolz.... So.prove this posters comment that it's a liberal plot.... Prove his ridiculous, partisan statement or be a man and admit you're wrong.
Please show me a single post of a global warming liberal criticizing President Obama for using an armada of aircraft every year to fly nearly half way around the globe so he can sit on that special beach on Hawaii?

Every time this is brought up, it's always, "Even the president deserves a vacation." They completely pass on his hypocrisy because he's apparently one of their royal leaders who is immune from any responsibility for something that he apparently believes.

We see the global warming left give passes when all the global warming leaders choose to jet-set across the globe for big fancy parties, I mean conferences, instead of using video conferencing.

We see them tell us that programs will keep the power on for the poor when these regulations take effect as though they don't know who actually is hurt the most by paying for them.

If you can't follow this due to your religious support of the left, well, there isn't much we can do for you.

 
Old 11-12-2014, 02:58 PM
 
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Obama will just sign another executive order requiring the middle class to pay the electric bills of the poor.



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..... and the libs will be the first to complain about the impact of high energy prices on the middle class and poor, despite their causing the problem.

Liberals- the biggest enemy of the poor and middle class. With carbon taxes, regulations, NAFTA, China most favored nation trade status and Obamacare taxes, one wonders if all of the "help" that liberals provide will essentially eliminate the middle class once and for all.
 
Old 11-12-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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Please show me a single post of a global warming liberal criticizing President Obama for using an armada of aircraft every year to fly nearly half way around the globe so he can sit on that special beach on Hawaii?

Every time this is brought up, it's always, "Even the president deserves a vacation." They completely pass on his hypocrisy because he's apparently one of their royal leaders who is immune from any responsibility for something that he apparently believes.

We see the global warming left give passes when all the global warming leaders choose to jet-set across the globe for big fancy parties, I mean conferences, instead of using video conferencing.

We see them tell us that programs will keep the power on for the poor when these regulations take effect as though they don't know who actually is hurt the most by paying for them.

If you can't follow this due to your religious support of the left, well, there isn't much we can do for you.
Exactly!! But then he gives speeches lecturing us that " we all have to do our part" and "no one gets a pass".
Meanwhile, Air Force One, the backup Air Force One and the fleet of black SUVs are all fueling up so that his highness can vacation on a particular beach in Hawaii while the little people are supposed to make sacrifices.
 
Old 11-12-2014, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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The bottom line is that Republicans drive up gas prices.
Waaahmbulances aren't all that aerodynamic.
 
Old 11-12-2014, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Please show me a single post of a global warming liberal criticizing President Obama for using an armada of aircraft every year to fly nearly half way around the globe so he can sit on that special beach on Hawaii?
Why? It has nothing to do with the right-wing claim that climatologists are frauds, does it?

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Every time this is brought up, it's always, "Even the president deserves a vacation."
Here's another response, then: your whining about Obama is not relevant.

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They completely pass on his hypocrisy because he's apparently one of their royal leaders who is immune from any responsibility for something that he apparently believes.
It's not terrifically apparent. Also, he's not my leader. He's yours.

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We see the global warming left give passes when all the global warming leaders choose to jet-set across the globe for big fancy parties, I mean conferences, instead of using video conferencing.
Still has nothing to do with right-wing denialism of fact. Has a lot to do with the fact that Obama makes right-wingers whine a lot.

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We see them tell us that programs will keep the power on for the poor when these regulations take effect as though they don't know who actually is hurt the most by paying for them.
I wouldn't take a right-winger's word for the effect of anything. I've heard right-wingers say the effect of letting gays marry is bad weather.

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If you can't follow this due to your religious support of the left, well, there isn't much we can do for you.
Suits me. So long as it's understood that the claims of Republicans and their rubes have no basis in fact and should be ignored.
 
Old 11-13-2014, 05:11 AM
 
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Obama has lowered Gas Prices, unlike the Republicans who raised them over the past 40 years.

- Republicans presidents Nixion & Ford enacted price controls to killed US oil production in the 1970's.

- Republicans presidents Nixion created the EPA to killed US oil production in the 1970's. Us oil production has declined under every Republican president since.

- Bush signed EO12777 banning US oil & gas drilling.

- Horizontal multi-well pad fracking setback borders were removed under Obama, cutting cost & boosting US oil production for the first time in 40 years.

- Obama has fast tracked Keystone oil pipelines. Keystone pipeline Phases 1, 2, &3 have been built under Obama, not Republicans.

- The Obama administration and the Environmental Protection Agency phased out the rubber boots on gas pump handles that used to capture gasoline vapors while refueling cars. That move saved consumers and businesses $6 billion at the pump.

- The Obama administration & Saudi's are using oil price as a weapon against Iran, Syria, ISIS & Russia. Way to go Obama! $50 oil & $1 gas coming soon.

- 60% in Republican Texas town that is the birthplace of fracking & has been supported by fracking just voted to ban it.


Obama's gas policies have done nothing for gas prices. Federal lands have seen no growth in drilling.




Same can be said for natural gas



Oil and Gas Production on Federal Lands Still a Disappointment - IER



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That's what home energy assistance programs are for.

How about you raise the minimum wage?

So do wouldn't mind squeezing the middle class right?


At any rate the only way Obama can actually enact his "pledge" with China is to announce additional executive orders (bypassing Congress). IF that happens, they no doubt will be overturned by future presidents. The President wants to reduce US emissions by 26% by 2025, and the Chinese are "committed" to PEAKING emissions by 2030


It's almost laughable


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/wo...=top-news&_r=0

From the Wall St Journal:

Obama trades higher U.S. energy costs now for distant Chinese promises.

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Meaningless global warming promises are much easier than corralling weapons of mass destruction in North Korea, or convincing Beijing to fight Islamic State, or for that matter stopping Chinese cyber-attacks on U.S. military and corporate targets. Mr. Xi must have been delighted to see a U.S. President agree to make America less economically competitive in return for rhetorical bows to doing something someday about climate change.

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Old 11-13-2014, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Your utility bill is irrelevant.

The environment is more important than your cushy life. Without a sustainable environment, we all die.
how is the utility bills for the PEOPLE irrelevant

I have already replaced all incandescent bulbs with the CFL's in order to help the environment(even though thy cost more, don't last the advertised 5-7 year life span, and the mercury issue)...and am slowly going over to LED...and its still not helping my utility bill

I already do the 'right thing' of keeping my cooling set at 78, and my heating set at 65....as the commercial says "feels great at 78"

the environment is a big thing and humans have a very small toll on it

why is the ONLY answer that liberals can come up with to ''help the environment'' is a carbon tax??

and as the population increases the usage will continue to go up...more humans, more need

it wont save the planet, all it does is make liberals rich


its like the global environment change mantra from the liberals...they don't understand its not man made, its a naturally occurring thing...we cant change it, we cant prevent it...we humans must ADAPT or we will go like the other million extinct animals from this earths history....and liberals only answer....a carbon tax

will the liberals try to tax the volcano in Hawaii currently spewing tons of co2 into the air???
 
Old 11-13-2014, 05:59 AM
 
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uh FYI..CO2 is not poison...Put a plant in a room, remove co2 and watch what happens...


Why woud you want to remove CO2 from the room? That is precisely what the plant is for.

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Why would you want to remove CO2 from the room? That is precisely what the plant is for.
 
Old 11-13-2014, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Why would you want to remove CO2 from the room? That is precisely what the plant is for.
the point is that co2 is a NEEDED part of our air

humans use o2, and expel co2
plants use co2 and expel o2

currently the saturation of co2. is about 390ppm, go under 200 ppm and plants wont even grow....infact the optimum level of co2 for plants is 1200-1500ppm
 
Old 11-15-2014, 05:33 AM
 
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Default Obama's Pledges $3 Billion To Help Poor Nations On Climate: Truth Global Warming Hoax Is About Wealth Distribution

Yea...Obama just keep giving taxpayer's money away we'll only 17 trillion dollars in debt you "IDIOT"!


Obama pledges $3B to help poor nations on climate
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