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You know, I read an article written by a gay activist who became friends with the founder of Chick-Fil-A. It's a really good article. I'll see if I can dig it up.
As far as this mans case goes, it sounds like he was treated unfairly. Professional decorum should be required at professional events. It doesn't matter if you are gay or straight. Behaving in a trashy manner while in uniform is not okay. It's just not.
I don't know why he personally felt the need to jump in. The article didn't really get into it.
I read all of the post in this thread before opening the article. I'm not going to make comment about the incident, but it seems to me that the article and its headline were written in the interest of thoroughly confusing the incident.
I read all of the post in this thread before opening the article. I'm not going to make comment about the incident, but it seems to me that the article and its headline were written in the interest of thoroughly confusing the incident.
I googled the name and the only articles that came up were on right wing and Christian sites. I had never heard of this incident before.
If I'm remembering correctly - he had 24 years in and was an 0-5? Probably time for him to go anyway. No promotion was in his future.
I quickly read the article. It wasn't for trying to stop the PDA, but because he assaulted someone recording the incident.
I retired from the military, and whether it was a gay or straight couple, you don't play grab ass in uniform.
As I read the article, the possible "assault" on the person with the camera was mentioned and quickly abandoned. It was the complaint of the female captain involved that was the "problem."
Swallowing each other's tongues in public is inappropriate behavior for any military officer in uniform, period--no matter the genders involved. The bedroom is the place for that, or, if out of uniform, a sleazy nightclub with hotel rooms upstairs rented by the hour.
Officers, especially, are expected to behave in a dignified manner in public.
This is so wack. It looks like this is their knee jerk reaction to cover their tails when it came to the Command Sergeant Major rubbed off on his case. Even the complaint that the Captain made wasn't about this guy it was about the actions after the fact of another superior.
The Army is moving to discharge a decorated combat pilot who intervened to stop two lesbian officers from showing what he considered inappropriate affection on the dance floor during a full-dress formal ball at Fort Drum, New York, in 2012.
How long will our country put up with these outrages against order and decency and this trashing of all respect for what is morally right?
Barack Obama's selective enforcement of the law which he is bound by oath to uphold and enforce, reveals not only a lawless, but an immoral character. Only a moral people will be concerned about applying the law impartially and with equity; an immoral people will always find ways to justify lawlessness
So if this guy was welcome to get frisky with one or both of these women would that have been okay?
That said, unless they were attending a known party that was friendly toward taking a literal orgiastic turn, a full military-dress ball is not the place to make an impromptu porno. Well, that used to be the case. These days... I'm surprised the couple weren't promoted and that the captain was not forced to partake in a BDSM scene.
I don't buy the story. I can tell by the ads on this website this is nothing but clickbait
A ball is not official duty nothing should come of this from either side.
We had an incident at a dining-in several years ago where a sergeant was making out with someone elses wife and she was reciprocating.... It was odd to watch, and someone intervened but never touched the offending parties. No one could make a move on either one officially as it was not an official function. Balls, dining-ins are similar to christmas parties, not official duty. Therefore, it should be a civilian matter.
Now, caveat. Had the officer in question forcefully pushed them apart or made a huge scene then that would be a civillian case of assault or conduct unbecoming of an officer and if it got back to the Commander they could be given an article 15. Officers are held to higher standards than enlisted.
Case in point. When I was in UAE we were working with the UAEAF and their officers. We worked directly with UAE AF officers and we were told if a O-4 plus from the UAE gives you an order that is lawful, you must follow it as you would your own commanders. Well we had a young officer who decided to go on a rant about working with a bunch of sand %$%$s and jihadis loudly within earshot of the UAE officers. Perhpas Mr. 'merica thought he would be respected more by his peers but.... he was kind of a loose cannon type, really odd guy, kind of a frat guy that never got out of frat guy mode. Well, his rhetoric was overheard by our Colonel one day who pulled him aside to talk, the next day I did not see that young LT. He was given an LOR and sent home. When he got back to Texas he made a huge stink about it and the local papers picked it up, internet too, that he had been "punished." They spun it as our officers sell our own out to appease foreign governments and we don't stand by our own and it riled up far right conservatives yada yada. The story was intentionally vague to get internet clicks.
I don't approve of homosexual shenanigans but I don't approve of heterosexual shenanigans either. I have never understood why people can't act appropriately at semi official functions. The last year I was in the Air Force we had to shut the christmas party down because of borderline criminal shenanigans perpetrated by service members. I'm glad I left before the homosexual rights thing took effect. Don't Ask Don't tell was a great policy and should have stayed. Homo or hetro, I won't ask about your sexual life and don't tell me about it either. Quite frankly that subject doesn't have anything to do with putting bombs on target. The story is too convoluted to make a judgement. Honestly, the media did its job, click bait and ad revenue, that's what it's all about.
The Army is using this as an excuse to get rid of him, hes an LTC with many years in. All over the military the powers be are trying to get rid of officers. I was offered 100k to leave. They have been forcing officers into retirement or voluntary separation over any little thing you can imagine. Also, he was cleared of any wrong doing.
Last edited by AndyAMG; 11-17-2014 at 12:04 AM..
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